The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Kriegsspiel » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:46 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU4AbJrsZwU

Some family & USA Today got some kid fired for playing the circle game:

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By saying he was flashing a white power hand sign. That the ADL decided was a hate symbol. Months after the picture was taken. The ADL's website actually uses the diagram from 4chan to explain how it means white power. Also the kid wasn't even doing the hand gesture. ::) ;D

I saw that headline and had to chuckle a bit. I figured Tim was going to get after it. Poor guy could probably sue for wrongful termination and defamation or whatever.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by jacksonm2 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:29 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:46 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU4AbJrsZwU

Some family & USA Today got some kid fired for playing the circle game:

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By saying he was flashing a white power hand sign. That the ADL decided was a hate symbol. Months after the picture was taken. The ADL's website actually uses the diagram from 4chan to explain how it means white power. Also the kid wasn't even doing the hand gesture. ::) ;D

I saw that headline and had to chuckle a bit. I figured Tim was going to get after it. Poor guy could probably sue for wrongful termination and defamation or whatever.
I think we're reaching a point where the strategy of the far left should start to become apparent to all thinking people. It's defame, destroy, and silence anyone who disagrees with them and truth be damned.

I'm hoping this mindset will turn out to be nothing more than a passing phase but I am not hopeful about it.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by dualstow » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:40 pm

I saw that, too, and I thought that was just bizarre. Can’t even blame 4chan if the ADL and others are going to be so stupid and fall for this.

4chan comes up with some crazy stuff. They had a campaign to answer CAPTCHA or some similar test with the N-word as their “guess”, on a mass scale, until machine learning decided that the N-word would be part of the test.

i can’t blame rudimentary software for being so easily duped but I can certainly blame the ADL. Ugh.

Let’s hope someone talks some sense into them and they reverse their decision.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Tyler » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:43 am

When someone takes this thread a little too seriously: #EatTheBabies

(I know it's likely a political stunt, but I admire the originality.)
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by flyingpylon » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:47 am

jacksonm2 wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:29 pm
I think we're reaching a point where the strategy of the far left should start to become apparent to all thinking people. It's defame, destroy, and silence anyone who disagrees with them and truth be damned.
It's often referred to as "Cancel Culture".
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by dualstow » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:57 am

Tyler wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:43 am
When someone takes this thread a little too seriously: #EatTheBabies

(I know it's likely a political stunt, but I admire the originality.)
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by t-bear52 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:16 pm

flyingpylon wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:47 am
jacksonm2 wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:29 pm
I think we're reaching a point where the strategy of the far left should start to become apparent to all thinking people. It's defame, destroy, and silence anyone who disagrees with them and truth be damned.
It's often referred to as "Cancel Culture".
The key words are "thinking people". I don't have much faith in the majority being "thinking people" these days. It's Sad!
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by I Shrugged » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:21 pm

At an LGBQT event, Beto was asked if he would support removal of tax-exempt status for religious institutions which are anti-gay. His answer, "Yes".

He is the gift that keeps on giving. I hope he does well in an early primary, so more people can hear him on the news.
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Post by dualstow » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:06 pm

Seattle Schools Lead Controversial Push to 'Rehumanize' Math
The Seattle school district is planning to infuse all K-12 math classes with ethnic-studies questions that encourage students to explore how math has been “appropriated” by Western culture and used in systems of power and oppression, a controversial move that puts the district at the forefront of a movement to “rehumanize” math.

The district’s proposed framework outlines strands of discussion that teachers should incorporate into their classes. One leads students into exploring math’s roots “in the ancient histories of people and empires of color.” Another asks how math and science have been used to oppress and marginalize people of color, and who holds power in a math classroom.

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Post by dualstow » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:24 pm

P.S. Below a facile defense by someone called iconoklast, there is a very good (IMO) comment from redditor nainahg. It begins thusly:
I’m from an African country that used to be a British colony. Because I was interested in maths while growing up I read the Men of Mathematics, like a lot of like minded people in English speaking countries. I thought of them as my heroes and had no problem growing up wanting to be like them. Never once did the thought occur to me that I couldn’t be a mathematician. It was only in uni that for the first time some people — almost always white — made me notice that those men were not like ‘my people’. Whatever my beliefs were then, this is something I completely reject now.
Euler, Poincare etc are in reality more *my* people than they are of *those* white people, invariably from humanities departments who are suspicious and resentful of science and math. The only thing that connects them is skin colour while what connects me is something much deeper. What is worse is they mistake the expression of their own ignorance and possibly white hot self-hate as some kind of sophisticated insight.
https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/ ... l_push_to/
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Maddy » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:33 pm

Phase 1: Integrate all ethnicities and economic strata within school districts, giving all an equal opportunity to succeed. Result: Smart, motivated kids still did better.

Phase 2: Move lower-achieving students to the head of the line, giving them artificially-created opportunities to succeed that other students don't have. Result: Smart, motivated kids still did better.

Phase 3: Give extra points to traditionally disadvantaged students to make up for their lack of advantage. Result: Smart, motivated kids still did better.

Phase 4: Rig the tests so that lower-achieving students appear to do as well as their peers. Result: Smart, motivated kids still did better.

Phase 5: Dumb down the curriculum to make achievement equally possible for everyone. Result: Smart, motivated kids still did better.

Phase 6: Abandon the curriculum entirely.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by sophie » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:00 am

Well that's just a delight.

If a kid is interested in math and science, the best you can hope for from the US schools system is that they won't be actively discouraged (which is the treatment I got in high school). This is deeply embedded in US culture and I have no idea where it came from...maybe it is from a desire not to let any group of kids (however defined) outshine another, which is really only possible in technical subjects. With subjects like English or history, native talent doesn't really play much of a role.

If you want an explanation for why engineering schools and science graduate programs are almost entirely populated by foreign born students, you don't have far to look. Out of all the postdocs and grad students that I interact with directly, in my lab or those of collaborators, there are exactly two of American origin (one biomedical engineering, the other an MD/PhD in neuroscience). I'm also quite pleased that of my nieces who are in or applying for colleges, two are engineering majors and one is in architecture after her high school pushed her toward fine arts. Didn't take her long to figure out that would be a worthless degree.
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