Pat Condell's Latest

[Ad Orientem]

https://youtu.be/GjYLWadz5Yc

Caution: If you have a politically correct bone in your body, you may want to to give this a pass.

[Mountaineer]

i love it...

Where is the "thumbs up" emoticon when you need it?

... Mountaineer

[Tyler]

Damn -- I wish he could run for President. 

[Ad Orientem]

Never hear of this guy before, but he seems like quite a character.

Yeah, his militant atheism is the only thing I don't much care for.

[Mountaineer]

Never heard of this guy before, but he seems like quite a character. 

Just goes to show you we Christian wackos can appreciate truth from whomever we hear it; it's the non-truth that we question. 

... M

[MachineGhost]

Just goes to show you we Christian wackos can appreciate truth from whomever we hear it; it's the non-truth that we question. 

Truth and non-truth is entirely subjective.  Only honesty is objective.

[Mountaineer]

Just goes to show you we Christian wackos can appreciate truth from whomever we hear it; it's the non-truth that we question. 

Truth and non-truth is entirely subjective.  Only honesty is objective.

Truth is objective.  The universe existed far before we were able to comprehend it, no matter how honestly one thought the world was flat or the solar system was earth centered. 

... M

[MachineGhost]

Truth is objective.  The universe existed far before we were able to comprehend it, no matter how honestly one thought the world was flat or the solar system was earth centered. 

Nonsense.  Truth is subjective because it's all in your mind.  Objectivity -- like honesty -- exists outside of it.  Everyone knows what honesty is but not everyone knows what everyone else's truth is.

[Mountaineer]

Truth is objective.  The universe existed far before we were able to comprehend it, no matter how honestly one thought the world was flat or the solar system was earth centered. 

Nonsense.  Truth is subjective because it's all in your mind.  Objectivity -- like honesty -- exists outside of it.  Everyone knows what honesty is but not everyone knows what everyone else's truth is.

Believe as you wish. 

* truth - that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality (sounds more objective to me)

* honesty - the quality of being honest

* honest - free of deceit and untruthfulness, morally correct or virtuous (sounds more subjective to me)


... Mountaineer

[WiseOne]

OMG this guy is hilarious.  He summed up my feelings about Trump exactly, including the part about "I'll vote for whatever it is you don't want, even if I don't really want it either."

He's also quite correct about the response to the Muslim attacks on women in Germany in January.  I was completely mystified by the German government's response. The thing is, if Trump had said what Angela Merkel said, the media here would have been on him like a yellow jacket swarm.

[Pointedstick]

OMG this guy is hilarious.  He summed up my feelings about Trump exactly, including the part about "I'll vote for whatever it is you don't want, even if I don't really want it either."

Bingo. Especially in the absence of a better option!

[MachineGhost]

* truth - that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality (sounds more objective to me)

* honesty - the quality of being honest

* honest - free of deceit and untruthfulness, morally correct or virtuous (sounds more subjective to me)

Let's try this.  If a honesty hit you upside the head, would you recognize it?  How about truth?  It's not the innate nature of the concept in question but the objective perception of being able to recognize it without relying on distorting, subjective filters.  We're all born honest; we all recognize it innately.  Because honesty is an objective force.  Nature is brutally and uncaringly honest.  You put your finger in the fire, you get burned and with that comes pain.  That's objectively honest.  In contrast, truth is subjective spin about an honest and objective experience (or an alleged one).

[Mountaineer]

* truth - that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality (sounds more objective to me)

* honesty - the quality of being honest

* honest - free of deceit and untruthfulness, morally correct or virtuous (sounds more subjective to me)

Let's try this.  If a honesty hit you upside the head, would you recognize it?  How about truth?  It's not the innate nature of the concept in question but the objective perception of being able to recognize it without relying on distorting, subjective filters.  We're all born honest; we all recognize it innately.  Because honesty is an objective force.  Nature is brutally and uncaringly honest.  You put your finger in the fire, you get burned and with that comes pain.  That's objectively honest.  In contrast, truth is subjective spin about an honest and objective experience (or an alleged one).

Hey MG, as I said in the part of my post you clipped out "Belive as you wish".  Your argument is with the dictionary, not with me.

A most glorious Ascension Sunday to you.  This is the day (insert your god here) has made!  Rejoice and be glad in it.

... M