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Evolution discussion

Post by Mountaineer » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:06 am

doodle wrote:
TennPaGa wrote:
Pointedstick wrote: Well that's really the big question, isn't it?

I would humbly suggest that a 29-year old startup entrepreneur may not be the most representative individual. Certainly some people would be like him, and Mr Money Mustache, and ERE Jacob, but how many people really would just sit on their asses and do nothing? Determining that proportion, or perhaps somehow being able to accurately model a person's relative propensity to do nothing useful with their lives would be a useful addition, I think.
How many people are doing something "useful" now?  What is the definition of useful?  Who decides what is useful?

It seems funny to me that, on the one hand, Americans devote so much time to making their lives easier, and yet, if we see people utilizing the existence of ease, we vilify them for it.


"progress" is another one of those nonsense words like "useful" that people like to throw around. This is what "useful"' and "progress" looks like to me.....causing this:

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So that we can have this:

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Millions of people slaving away destroying rainforest and some of the worlds most amazing creatures so that Mr. Chanel can get the ingredients he needs to sell us this stupid stuff to smear on our lips.
Thank God that I'm not an ape and did not descend from one.  Thank God that I am a human selected to have dominion over His creation and that He teaches me to have stewardship over His creation.  Thank God I understand God's will for how we should live.

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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by doodle » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:41 am

Mountaineer,

You are a total schmuck....and an idiot to boot. Keep burying your head in that stupid book of yours....
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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by Mountaineer » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:44 am

doodle wrote: Mountaineer,

You are a total schmuck....and an idiot to boot. Keep burying your head in that stupid book of yours....
I forgive you for saying that because it really is the truth even though I suspect you intended it as a personal attack (words of truth in love from one schmuck to another).  You are starting to get the message ... we are all sinners (schmucks) desperately in need of a Savior.  :D

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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by l82start » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:49 am

Government 2020 - a BANANA REPUBLIC - if you can keep it

Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence
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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by doodle » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:51 am

There is a joke from Bill Hicks that you just reminded me of...

A fundamentalist Christian says to Bill, "I believe God created me in one day"

Bill responds, "looks like he rushed it."

If humans are the best that God can do, then what a sorry creator we have....

Don't read this btw, it will just contradict everything in your book...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality

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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by Mountaineer » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:53 am

doodle wrote: Mountaineer,

You are a total schmuck....and an idiot to boot. Keep burying your head in that stupid book of yours....
Moderators,

If you are reading this thread, please to not call out doodle for violating the "let's keep it civil" guideline.  I forgave him for the attack on me, and it is between doodle and God for the attack on Him and His Word.  Seriously.  I indeed probably provoked doodle because I gather from his posts that my post re. evolution and stewardship and dominion were probably perceived as attacking a couple of his sacred cows.  I know I may have provided the stimulus, and doodle reacted.  I really doubt he intended it in a mean spirited way.  So, I'm doing my best to be tolerant of intollerant behavior.  Done as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by doodle » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:58 am

God must have run out of design templates when he got to us...

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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by doodle » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:02 pm

Mountaineer wrote:
doodle wrote: Mountaineer,

You are a total schmuck....and an idiot to boot. Keep burying your head in that stupid book of yours....
Moderators,

If you are reading this thread, please to not call out doodle for violating the "let's keep it civil" guideline.  I forgave him for the attack on me, and it is between doodle and God for the attack on Him and His Word.  Seriously.  I indeed probably provoked doodle because I gather from his posts that my post re. evolution and stewardship and dominion were probably perceived as attacking a couple of his sacred cows.  I know I may have provided the stimulus, and doodle reacted.  I really doubt he intended it in a mean spirited way.  So, I'm doing my best to be tolerant of intollerant behavior.  Done as far as I'm concerned.

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Well, if you are able to forgive me then certainly the all loving god that created me can....
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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by clacy » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:01 pm

doodle, you have some very bizarre opinions yourself, so please keep it civil.
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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by Kshartle » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:06 pm

doodle wrote: God must have run out of design templates when he got to us...

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It's easier to tweak than re-design.
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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by kka » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:18 pm

doodle wrote: There is a joke from Bill Hicks that you just reminded me of...

A fundamentalist Christian says to Bill, "I believe God created me in one day"

Bill responds, "looks like he rushed it."

If humans are the best that God can do, then what a sorry creator we have....

Don't read this btw, it will just contradict everything in your book...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality

Sorry for my lack of decorum, I can't suffer a fool
The design of life is unimaginably more complex than anything humans can engineer.
http://dandydesigns.org/id57.html

Wikipedia is hopelessly outdated.
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/07/ve ... 62281.html

'Only a handful of alleged vestigial organs remains from Wiedersheim's original list, and each of those is questionable. Recently Darwinians made the same kind of mistake with their myth of "junk DNA".'
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Re: Evolution discussion

Post by doodle » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:29 pm

kka wrote:
doodle wrote: There is a joke from Bill Hicks that you just reminded me of...

A fundamentalist Christian says to Bill, "I believe God created me in one day"

Bill responds, "looks like he rushed it."

If humans are the best that God can do, then what a sorry creator we have....

Don't read this btw, it will just contradict everything in your book...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality

Sorry for my lack of decorum, I can't suffer a fool
The design of life is unimaginably more complex than anything humans can engineer.
http://dandydesigns.org/id57.html

Wikipedia is hopelessly outdated.
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/07/ve ... 62281.html

'Only a handful of alleged vestigial organs remains from Wiedersheim's original list, and each of those is questionable. Recently Darwinians made the same kind of mistake with their myth of "junk DNA".'
Who said humans designed humans? There is a ton of weird vestigial parts of our body from the appendix to the coccyx to a third eyelid...

Look at that picture of dog and man or any other mammal....you really don't think we have the same evolutionary lineage? How a reasonably intelligent person can look at the evidence in the world around them and then choose to believe some miraculous story of creation written in a book for which not a shred of evidence exists is beyond me.
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