Here's a sobering article with what looks like a well-supported report on total immigration in the US:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/censu ... le/2603543
Some fast facts from the article:
- The number of total immigrants in the US, legal and illegal, is over 40 million. At 16% of the population, this is the highest level in 100 years.
- Immigration accounts for the majority of US population growth.
- Immigrants and children of immigrants account for a quarter of children in public schools and a third of children living in poverty.
- Immigrants account for about a third of people without health insurance.
This is far out of proportion with what any other country is dealing with, except possibly Germany and Sweden. Canada, New Zealand, and Australia all have an order of magnitude fewer immigrants as a percentage of total population (Canada being the lowest). The UK is somewhere in between, but still far, far less than the US.
These numbers make me very concerned for the future. The immigrants themselves are mostly economic basket cases, whose numbers are growing a lot faster than the people who are expected to foot the bill. I don't like where this is going. In times past, the immigrants' children melded well with the rest of the US society and became productive citizens. That's not going to happen with the current major immigrant groups, who are mostly not integrating and will not become productive for several generations at least.
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Re: Immigration statistics
That's because we have all but an "open borders" immigration policy compared to those countries. It's pretty hypocritical that those countries can be more liberal and progressive than the USA, yet have way more hard-liner immigration policies that would cause rioting in the streets here. Just goes to show its not really about the merits of any position per se, but political groupthink.WiseOne wrote:This is far out of proportion with what any other country is dealing with, except possibly Germany and Sweden. Canada, New Zealand, and Australia all have an order of magnitude fewer immigrants as a percentage of total population (Canada being the lowest). The UK is somewhere in between, but still far, far less than the US.
And who's going to provide those services if we don't let them in? A more socialist economy can probably work better with hard-liner immigration policies, but a capitalist society needs labor.— In 2014, 49 percent of maids, 47 percent of taxi drivers and chauffeurs, 33 percent of butchers and meat processors, and 35 percent of construction laborers were foreign-born.
I say we need to end birthright citizenship before the Citizen's Dividend is allowed. But I suspect there's enough liberal loonies out there that there will be loopholes at the state government level in terms of providing welfare and hence a perpetual magnet to the immigration underclass.
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Re: Immigration statistics
Supports your suspicions, WiseOne!


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Re: Immigration statistics
BTW, even Kaine said during the VP debate that "we have to bring families together" in regards to immigration which pretty much hits the nail on the head with what is horribly wrong with our immigration polciy. Those "family members" alarmingly turn out to be criminals or rapists from Mexico, to paraphrase Trump.
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