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I have found that it is easy to press buttons dispassionately on some backtest spreadsheet over the morning coffee.Clive wrote: What's quite interesting is that if you consider foreign currency as an alternative to gold, and that a diverse range of stocks can reduce the need for a CASH damper, then reducing PP's gold down from 25% to 15% and reducing CASH down to 10%, leaving LT's as-is at 25%, but then spreading across domestic and foreign stocks (so some foreign currency type exposure to counter the reduced amount of gold) can vastly improve returns.
From Simba's spreadsheet (1972 to 2009), a blend of 10% cash (Money Market), 15% gold, 25% LT's and 10% each in Large Cap Value, Small Cap Value, Small Cap Growth, Emerging Markets and International Value (the last two acting as a form of foreign currency holding to counter-balance holding less gold) produced a annualised gain that was 2.5% more than the classic PP. Beating the Coffee House by 1% annualised and with lower standard deviation (risk), whilst retaining many of the PP like qualities. Switching the MM for ST produced a slightly higher annualised of 11.78% for around the same standard deviation (10.52 vs 10.55).
Better than the PP's 9.1% annualised, 8.02% standard deviation and up until 2008 the drawdowns were much the same as PP's. In 2008 however the drawdown did rise to -13%. So there is more risk involved (risk/rewards generally go hand-in-hand).
Hi, Macclary,macclary wrote: I would hesitate to be so dismissive of backtesting and optimizing. Harry Browne and his colleague did a great deal of that type of work when creating the PP and preceding portfolio recommendations. I think backtesting and portfolio optimizing is more than a game.
From my discussions with his former business colleague and publisher they did actually pay quite a bit of money in the 1970's to have some computer analysis performed on portfolio designs. But this was also combined with a study of history and understanding of Austrian economics to work out the details.Roy wrote:I have no doubt Harry considered a number of approaches; I imagine 4x25 was not his first guess. I would be interested to know the details of what he did in this manner. Can you point me to some specifics that illustrate the various paths he may have considered before settling as he did?
Funny, as Craigr, suggests I have used it to show how inexpensive index funds have beaten or matched the record of "famous" low-cost active funds using equivalent percentages of stocks and bonds. The point being that style-drifting and stock selection was not as comforting and productive as many believed—even with certain inexpensive and proud active funds. The active management (which, by necessity, did cost a bit more) resulted in style-drifting, that was the likely cause of underperformance. This came as a surprise or invoked sharp defense on the part of the active fund supporters. And the belief in those active funds continued despite repeated displays of this simple data. Which, of course, makes sense in a world where emotions, shamans, and mystical beliefs, not spreadsheet buttons, hold sway.craigr wrote:From my discussions with his former business colleague and publisher they did actually pay quite a bit of money in the 1970's to have some computer analysis performed on portfolio designs. But this was also combined with a study of history and understanding of Austrian economics to work out the details.Roy wrote:I have no doubt Harry considered a number of approaches; I imagine 4x25 was not his first guess. I would be interested to know the details of what he did in this manner. Can you point me to some specifics that illustrate the various paths he may have considered before settling as he did?
Backtesting, as Browne pointed out as well, can really only be used to disprove ideas. It can't really be used to prove anything. We can use it to show that some asset allocation didn't work in the past. But we really can never state that some other allocation is going to work forever going forward. We can only use backtesting to throw out models that haven't worked in a way we wanted so we don't spend any more time considering them.
So backtesting can be useful, but it's also a dangerous tool if used in ways not intended. I think a lot of investing books use it in ways not intended for instance and this leads to bad outcomes.