Thank You Mr. President

Ad Orientem · Post by **Ad Orientem** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:52 am

Walmart to End Health Coverage for 30,000

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/08/busin ... .html?_r=0

Pointedstick · Post by **Pointedstick** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:59 am

Seems to me like it's working perfectly.

Benko · Post by **Benko** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:43 am

"Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent"

Jim Quinn, Conservative radio talk show host.

Libertarian666 · Post by **Libertarian666** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:45 am

Benko wrote: "Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent"

Jim Quinn, Conservative radio talk show host.

Yes, and generates the exact results of its actual intent.

Post by **dualstow** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:47 pm

Where is Reub?

clacy · Post by **clacy** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:18 pm

Obama has taught us that professors make really bad Presidents. Obama had zero executive/leadership experience and it shows

Ad Orientem · Post by **Ad Orientem** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:05 pm

clacy wrote: Obama has taught us that professors make really bad Presidents. Obama had zero executive/leadership experience and it shows

I would have thought that lesson was learned after Woodrow Wilson.

Pointedstick · Post by **Pointedstick** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:25 pm

Who was the last guy who did make a good president?

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:03 pm

Jefferson

Benko · Post by **Benko** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:05 pm

Pointedstick wrote: Who was the last guy who did make a good president?

1. There are levels and I suppose different kinds of bad depending on one's priorities.

2. Many on this board consider the "bad" things Bush II did (I gather) to be worse than anything the present WH occupant has done. Others including me do not see it that way.

3. The economy (as in doing as little as possible to F it up) and keeping the country safe (there were reports of ISIS operatives entering California in past few days) are my two top priorities.

stuper1 · Post by **stuper1** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:08 pm

Do you think ISIS would be the problem it is if Bush II hadn't gone into Iraq?

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:43 pm

stuper1 wrote: Do you think ISIS would be the problem it is if Bush II hadn't gone into Iraq?

Do you think Hitler was a problem without Britain, France, or the US invading Germany?

... Mountaineer

stuper1 · Post by **stuper1** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:46 pm

Hitler was a problem when he started invading other countries. As I recall, Sadam Hussein wasn't invading anybody and didn't have anything to do with 9/11, which everybody knew anyway, but Bush II tried to make it sound like Hussein did have something to do with 9/11.

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:56 pm

stuper1 wrote: Hitler was a problem when he started invading other countries. As I recall, Sadam Hussein wasn't invading anybody and didn't have anything to do with 9/11, which everybody knew anyway, but Bush II tried to make it sound like Hussein did have something to do with 9/11.

Hitler may have been just a slight problem for the German Jews before he invaded Poland.

... Mountaineer

Pointedstick · Post by **Pointedstick** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:01 pm

Mountaineer wrote:
stuper1 wrote: Do you think ISIS would be the problem it is if Bush II hadn't gone into Iraq?
Do you think Hitler was a problem without Britain, France, or the US invading Germany?

... Mountaineer

Assuming you are talking about the outcome of WWI and the resulting Treaty of Versailles… then no.

He would have been just some irritable anti-semitic artist. Blowback's a bitch.

stuper1 · Post by **stuper1** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:09 pm

Mountaineer wrote:
stuper1 wrote: Hitler was a problem when he started invading other countries. As I recall, Sadam Hussein wasn't invading anybody and didn't have anything to do with 9/11, which everybody knew anyway, but Bush II tried to make it sound like Hussein did have something to do with 9/11.
Hitler may have been just a slight problem for the German Jews before he invaded Poland.

... Mountaineer

He may have been, but what does that have to do with Bush II and Iraq? Was Hussein committing genocide against some group of people that I'm not aware of?

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:10 pm

Pointedstick wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:
stuper1 wrote: Do you think ISIS would be the problem it is if Bush II hadn't gone into Iraq?
Do you think Hitler was a problem without Britain, France, or the US invading Germany?

... Mountaineer
Assuming you are talking about the outcome of WWI and the resulting Treaty of Versailles… then no. He would have been just some irritable anti-semitic artist. Blowback's a bitch.

Good point. One can make a pretty good case for WWI and WWII really being the same war with a lull period - similar to Gulf 1 and 2 (and 3?).

... Mountaineer

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:12 pm

stuper1 wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:
stuper1 wrote: Hitler was a problem when he started invading other countries. As I recall, Sadam Hussein wasn't invading anybody and didn't have anything to do with 9/11, which everybody knew anyway, but Bush II tried to make it sound like Hussein did have something to do with 9/11.
Hitler may have been just a slight problem for the German Jews before he invaded Poland.

... Mountaineer
He may have been, but what does that have to do with Bush II and Iraq? Was Hussein committing genocide against some group of people that I'm not aware of?

The Kurds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign

... Mountaineer

Pointedstick · Post by **Pointedstick** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:16 pm

Mountaineer wrote:
stuper1 wrote: He may have been, but what does that have to do with Bush II and Iraq? Was Hussein committing genocide against some group of people that I'm not aware of?
The Kurds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign

... Mountaineer

True, but let's not pretend that we cared or that was the reason why we invaded.

Ad Orientem · Post by **Ad Orientem** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:17 pm

Pointedstick wrote: Who was the last guy who did make a good president?

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:21 pm

Ad Orientem wrote:
Pointedstick wrote: Who was the last guy who did make a good president?

Funny you posted that. I almost picked him but did not due to recency bias. I decided to be silent.

... Mountaineer

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:24 pm

Pointedstick wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:
stuper1 wrote: He may have been, but what does that have to do with Bush II and Iraq? Was Hussein committing genocide against some group of people that I'm not aware of?
The Kurds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign

... Mountaineer
True, but let's not pretend that we cared or that was the reason why we invaded.

Hey, I was just answering stuper1's question about genocide with some facts. I was not commenting on Bush's motive as getting inside another persons brain is next to impossible. An Army friend of mine used to call that "mind Fing".

... Mountaineer

Pointedstick · Post by **Pointedstick** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:29 pm

Fair enough.

clacy · Post by **clacy** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:02 pm

stuper1 wrote: Do you think ISIS would be the problem it is if Bush II hadn't gone into Iraq?

Listen, this was a horrible move obviously.

However, it was compounded 3-fold when Captain Dipsh*t pulled ALL troops, creating a total power vacuum, out at the same time a civil war was occurring in the neighboring powder keg known as Syria.

It's like Obama wanted to totally out do Bush's foreign policy blunders.

Mission accomplished!

Pointedstick · Post by **Pointedstick** » Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:33 pm

Wasn't the power vacuum actually accomplished when we topped and executed a strong, stable, brutal dictator who was successfully oppressing substantial religious and ethnic minorities... and replaced him with a weak, ineffective, puppet democratic regime without the balls to do what it would take to hold together a country with completely nonsensical borders?

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