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Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:40 pm
by Tyler
Rather than dive into a few threads where people are feeling nervous, I thought I'd start fresh with a pictorial summary of why I personally invest in the Permanent Portfolio.  These are a collection of images from this forum and elsewhere around the web that I return to every time I start questioning my choices. 

First, the classic smooth line.  Craig once posted this on Bogleheads.
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The PP is greater than the sum of its parts, and one should not judge any one asset in isolation.

Next, a good perspective of PP performance history:
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If you're curious, RickB showed here (http://gyroscopicinvesting.com/forum/pe ... c-graphic/) that a 60/40 Boglehead AA looks a lot like the stock chart but a bit more muted.  The PP just does its thing, generating a 3-7% annualized real return over all rolling 10-year investment periods.  That doesn't mean there isn't the occasional period of 2-3 years with small negative compound returns, but things historically average out much more quickly than in stock-heavy portfolios.  For reference, the CAGR for the last 3 years would be a light pink cell on the chart.  Nothing unusual, nothing to fear.

For those concerned about real returns versus the more popular 60/40 Boglehead portfolio, here are two fantastic charts from Melveyr's website (http://www.stableinvesting.com/2011/04/ ... hmark.html)
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One should not allow recency bias in the stock market to affect their historical perspective.  The PP is amazingly consistent over time.

And for retirees, this one is pretty handy:
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Contemplate for a while why, if there was a recent 20-year period that supported 8%+ inflation-adjusted withdrawal rates, the standard advice is to withdraw only 4% from a stock/bond portfolio.  It's because when the returns do go bad, they can go negative for more than a decade on an annualized basis (also refer to the previous heat maps).  Those are times that will stress even the most experienced investors.  The PP is nice and consistent, allowing you to enjoy your retirement without all of the associated mood swings.

The Permanent Portfolio may not be for everyone, but the more I look at images like these the more I realize it's for me. 



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Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:49 pm
by Pointedstick
Great stuff, Tyler! Good candidate for stickying, too. :)

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:14 pm
by dualstow
Wonderful post!

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:03 pm
by buddtholomew
Excellent, thank you.

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:34 pm
by Reub
Thank you for reminding us why we come here and why we invest in the PP!

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:05 pm
by Alanw
After a rough week with the PP, some great long term insight.
Thanks

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:35 am
by brownehead
Hi Tyler,
I hope you don't mind, but I used your pictures for a spanish post about the PP here:

http://www.rankia.com/blog/cartera-perm ... o-graficos

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:20 pm
by Tyler
No problem, Brownehead.  I feel it's important to note that the pictures are not all mine, so I appreciate the link you provided back to this forum so that others can similarly benefit from the community.

Nice article!  I think you articulated the concepts quite well.

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:24 am
by dualstow
I have never made an investing decision based on a chart, with one exception.
Something with a similarly smooth line like that in the chart at the top of this thread helped draw me into the pp, except it wasn't the pp versus its own components. It was the pp versus some other strategies, and it clearly showed the lack of massive drawdowns.

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:44 am
by Tyler
Good point, Dualstow.  This chart also drew me in a few years ago:

[img width=525]http://madmoneymachine.com/wp-content/u ... image1.png[/img]

Also this one:

[img width=525]http://madmoneymachine.com/wp-content/u ... image3.png[/img]

Both are from madmoneymachine.com.

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:48 am
by dualstow
Those are good! I used to go to Boyer's site -- and wasn't he on this one for five minutes? -- to check on the progress of Lazy Portfolios. Was very surprised when he went all bitcoin on his wonderful website.

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:43 am
by Kbg
One of the things I'm not sure people (who are freaking out when the market/PP goes down) really understand/visualize in their minds is what is going on underneath the hood. Study the rebalance column carefully and go take a look at some price charts. Lastly, take a look at SHY. Now on the next rebalance we are going to take it down some, but in the previous six months we had turned about 4% of the portfolio in to nice safe cash. Lastly, the PP's philosophical approach is you can not predict the market. Go back to Jan 1 and just search up expectations for interest rates this year...and who is our hands down best performer? Long bonds. Finally, and I call this PP with an XIV Twist. Look at the column and mustard shading next to XIV. XIV is only up 17% for the year and if you just look at quarters has been a loser in 2 out of 3 of them. But we had a monster summer and our XIV is up 25%.

Bottom line: The right portfolio with rebalancing is some kind of magic.

[img width=575]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/283 ... alance.PNG[/img]

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:24 pm
by buddtholomew
What did you say your name was again?

Re: Why I Invest in the PP, in Pictures

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:02 pm
by Kbg
Kev