What is the significance of this for bond investors / speculators?
Of course, as part of PP, I expect its insignificant.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-2 ... ce-7-years
Treasury Yield Curve Collapses At Fastest Pace In 7 Years
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Re: Treasury Yield Curve Collapses At Fastest Pace In 7 Years
Recession. And an inverted yield curve is one of the Achille's Heels of the PP, so it is NOT insignificant.murphy_p_t wrote: What is the significance of this for bond investors / speculators?
Of course, as part of PP, I expect its insignificant.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-2 ... ce-7-years
Boy, the hubris and contentment of the PP lately is getting sickening. It's been losing ground for 3 years, yet you're all eternal believers.

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Re: Treasury Yield Curve Collapses At Fastest Pace In 7 Years
MG,
Curious...what are your thoughts on asset allocation then?
Thx,
Bluedog
Curious...what are your thoughts on asset allocation then?
Thx,
Bluedog

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Re: Treasury Yield Curve Collapses At Fastest Pace In 7 Years
I wish I had a better answer for you, but I don't think we will know until we actually suffer through it and then we can look back and see what would have mitigated the damage, if at all. But certainly a higher percentage to cash would weather a Tight Money / Inverted Yield Curve condition better than anything else.bluedog wrote: MG,
Curious...what are your thoughts on asset allocation then?
Thx,
Bluedog![]()
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Re: Treasury Yield Curve Collapses At Fastest Pace In 7 Years
This thread from last year might be worth reviewing:MachineGhost wrote:I wish I had a better answer for you, but I don't think we will know until we actually suffer through it and then we can look back and see what would have mitigated the damage, if at all. But certainly a higher percentage to cash would weather a Tight Money / Inverted Yield Curve condition better than anything else.bluedog wrote: MG,
Curious...what are your thoughts on asset allocation then?
Thx,
Bluedog![]()
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Re: Treasury Yield Curve Collapses At Fastest Pace In 7 Years
2011 10.5%MachineGhost wrote: It's been losing ground for 3 years, yet you're all eternal believers.![]()
2012 6.8%
2013 -3.5%
How's it been losing ground for 3 years?
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Re: Treasury Yield Curve Collapses At Fastest Pace In 7 Years
I'm still a believer but your figures don't dispute the accuracy of MG's observation. Looks like losing ground for 3 years to me.AdamA wrote:2011 10.5%MachineGhost wrote: It's been losing ground for 3 years, yet you're all eternal believers.![]()
2012 6.8%
2013 -3.5%
How's it been losing ground for 3 years?
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Re: Treasury Yield Curve Collapses At Fastest Pace In 7 Years
I guess its a matter of perspective. The PP has been underwater for 1.5 years not 3 (that is the Max Yield version I think), even if its not been losing 1.5 years in a row. I was firmly thinking of the equity curve, not the yearly returns. I ran an updated backtest:
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