Gyroscopic Investing

tomfoolery wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:20 pm

doodle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:11 pm

tomfoolery wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:48 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:43 pm It's like being a trustworthy person is not something to be valued.

That's why Biden is best. We can trust him. Trump lies about how many people attended his rally.

Biden is honest. If he says he didn't get his son a job in the Ukraine then we know we can trust him. Because of his truthfulness.

Biden lies too....but no one lies like Trump. His lies are so prodigious that it's almost not even lying anymore because what he says is so unbelievable that it's almost a joke. One would have to be an idiot to believe anything he says.

Also, notice how I voted for Biden but criticize him profusely...and will do so if he gets into office.. That's the interesting thing about the conservative mind...once they lock onto something that they identify as part of their 'tribe' it becomes suddenly beyond reproach. Vinny asks a straightforward question about Trump and Tom deflects...with his usual whataboutism.

I don’t particularly like Trump. As a person or a president. I want the government to be so small it can’t hurt me. But Trump has minimized the pain of government to an extent and I’m personally better off.

I don’t go out of my way to defend Trump, since I’m not a trump supporter and I did not vote for him. But when someone posts some reason they dislike Trump, such as because he said bad things against the Central Park 5, I look into it and think jeez. That’s how I feel too. Independently.

When people say he lies and his biggest lie is how many people showed up at his rally or whether it rained, I think who gives a shit? I’d say the same if AOC lied about the weather, and I don’t care for her politics at all.

When Trump said there were good people on both sides of the Charlottesville case, YES, yes there were! It wasn’t just a bunch of white supremacists there. It has nothing to do with who said the line, but the contents of it that I agree with.

I try to be as impartial as possible to the action ignoring the actor or politics.

tomfoolery wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:53 pm

doodle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:42 pm
I equally despise both parties but since this forum slants so heavily right I do what I can to provide some ballast. That therefore makes me a communist.

Ah, okay I dislike liberals way more than I dislike conservatives.

doodle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:19 am He literally has less self control than a five year old.

Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:19 am

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:49 am Speaking about lying, or exaggeration or "joking"

https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/poli ... ted-states

For once a lot of republicans came out against this as well.

They are trying to manufacture votes to steal the election.
That's the only reason for the last-minute illegal changes to election law by the Democrat governors.

yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:34 am

doodle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:19 am He literally has less self control than a five year old.

Also, the logic or sense of fairness of a child?

At 2 AM or so I hear him say that he is demanding the immediate stopping of counting of all votes. Except for Arizona because if those continue to be counted he still has a chance of winning it.

Vinny

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:36 pm So who’s the contender that’s mentally unhinged? hah

We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (which won’t allow legal observers) the State of Georgia, and the State of North Carolina, each one of which has a BIG Trump lead. Additionally, we hereby claim the State of Michigan if, in fact,.....

...there was a large number of secretly dumped ballots as has been widely reported

Xan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:42 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:36 pm So who’s the contender that’s mentally unhinged? hah

We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (which won’t allow legal observers) the State of Georgia, and the State of North Carolina, each one of which has a BIG Trump lead. Additionally, we hereby claim the State of Michigan if, in fact,.....

...there was a large number of secretly dumped ballots as has been widely reported

Read the article Mountaineer linked to.

Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:24 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:15 pm

Xan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:42 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:36 pm So who’s the contender that’s mentally unhinged? hah

We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (which won’t allow legal observers) the State of Georgia, and the State of North Carolina, each one of which has a BIG Trump lead. Additionally, we hereby claim the State of Michigan if, in fact,.....

...there was a large number of secretly dumped ballots as has been widely reported

Read the article Mountaineer linked to.

I did. If there’s any concern of vote dumping, there should be a recount in MI

But his last night speech and these Twitter comments continue the unpresidentialness I am ancy to get rid of!

Yes, of course you want him to accept that the election was stolen from him.
I thought it was possible to discuss issues with you but obviously that is not correct.
Back into the ignore list.

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:30 pm I wish tech was a little less hard core. If Trump wins in the next few days, I’ll accept it. I won’t think it was stolen or litigated away.

Tortoise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:47 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:30 pm I wish tech was a little less hard core. If Trump wins in the next few days, I’ll accept it. I won’t think it was stolen or litigated away.

The litigation and recounts that are coming will take more than just a few days.

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:30 pm I think I am now in the lead for tech’s ignores?

I’ll say again like I think I did previously, I bet tech and I could go out for a drink and find we have a lot in common and leave politics out of it and be friends. I have a number of friends who would side with tech's positions. We just don’t talk about politics much.

I wish tech was a little less hard core. If Trump wins in the next few days, I’ll accept it. I won’t think it was stolen or litigated away.

Sigh.

Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:33 pm

Xan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:51 pm

Tortoise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:47 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:30 pm I wish tech was a little less hard core. If Trump wins in the next few days, I’ll accept it. I won’t think it was stolen or litigated away.

The litigation and recounts that are coming will take more than just a few days.

Hopefully it'll be well settled by the time the electors meet on December 14th.

I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court will have to decide it well before then. The evidence of misconduct is so great that they won't be able to let it go by.

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:59 am

Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:33 pm

Xan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:51 pm

Tortoise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:47 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:30 pm I wish tech was a little less hard core. If Trump wins in the next few days, I’ll accept it. I won’t think it was stolen or litigated away.

The litigation and recounts that are coming will take more than just a few days.

Hopefully it'll be well settled by the time the electors meet on December 14th.

I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court will have to decide it well before then. The evidence of misconduct is so great that they won't be able to let it go by.

I am sure you may not see this response tech, but give me one, just one, reputable site or news organization that details this misconduct?

If the dems wanted to steal the election they sure freaking sucked at it. Lost house seats, didn't win the senate, squeaking by right now on president. They sure seem to be bad at this misconduct!

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:28 am This same sort of discussion is going on with a friend over email. This is a guy I have been friends with for >30 years.

Everything is a conspiracy.

We could land people on the moon in a couple years, purposely right next to a previous Apollo site and bring pieces back, and they still won't believe it.

And a lot of these people (no disrespect intended) have 100% blind faith that there is a God and heaven and afterlife. Maybe it goes hand in hand with being susceptible to conspiracies. I have been a doubting Thomas since I was very young.

doodle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:45 am The other thing is, they aren't dumb. Their stories aren't gibberish. They are missing key points or overlooking important details, but the narrative makes sense and is captivating. So you have very intelligent people basically concocting their own convincing version of the truth and peddling it to millions of other like brained individuals that then buy wholeheartedly into the story. Techno is a good example of this. He isn't dumb. In fact he is probably way above average intelligence. But that intelligence is then employed in concocting fantastical stories to fit preconceived ideas instead of unconvering the truth.

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:04 am I don't think there's any need to say this is a phenomenon on one side of the aisle. People are rationalizing machines. We can and will rationalize anything.