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I am no expert (read: please ignore everything I am about to write and really, I should not even be writing it at all ;) ) but I don't think a knife is a very good self-defense weapon. It requires that you be within hand-to-hand combat distance with the attacker, and your ability to meaningfully employ it depends on heavily on your level of physical fitness and training in knife fighting. A knife is not a disabling weapon; it is a killing weapon, but it kills slowly through blood loss. That's the opposite of what you want for self-defense where stopping the attacker immediately is paramount. And then there's the psychological factor: a knife simply isn't that intimidating to the kind of person you can expect you might have to use it against. He can reason to himself, "I'm a big tough guy. I can dodge his feeble attacks, or even wrestle that dinky thing away from him."

It's probably better than nothing, of course But IMHO, a gun is simply worlds better if you feel the desire to carry a weapon for self-defense. A gun is more intimidating, easier to effectively employ with less physical conditioning or training, has greater range, and is more likely to actually stop an assailant quickly should--god forbid--you ever need to use it in that capacity.
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Don't fall back on a knife! It's painful!

Seriously, though, what about a boot knife instead of a folding knife?
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Spyderco Delica.

Made in Japan.
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MediumTex wrote: Spyderco Delica.

Made in Japan.
I like knives!  I'm trusting your recommendation and ordered one today.  I have not had a Spyderco before.  Do you give a money back guarantee?  ;D

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Mountaineer wrote:
MediumTex wrote: Spyderco Delica.

Made in Japan.
I like knives!  I'm trusting your recommendation and ordered one today.  I have not had a Spyderco before.  Do you give a money back guarantee?  ;D

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I've had several of these over the years and they are great knives if you want a compact lightweight knife with a high quality serrated/straight blade.

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How do knives really fit into a self defense plan?

(Not asking to be smug, I just really don't get the strategy and am curious).
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Desert wrote:
Edged weapons are devastating.  As PS pointed out, they bring more killing power than they do stopping power, but I'd rather have a knife than nothing. 
But at what point in a confrontation do you break out the knife?
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AdamA wrote:
Desert wrote:
Edged weapons are devastating.  As PS pointed out, they bring more killing power than they do stopping power, but I'd rather have a knife than nothing. 
But at what point in a confrontation do you break out the knife?
As soon as she starts complaining about anything!
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Desert wrote:
Kshartle wrote:
AdamA wrote: But at what point in a confrontation do you break out the knife?
As soon as she starts complaining about anything!
:)  For that comment, I'm afraid I have to send you back to the morality thread for penance.
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I don't think I would ever pull a knife on my wife. She still has the huge machete I got her this past christmas! 8)
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Desert wrote: :)  Yeah, nothing quite as bad as showing up at a machete fight with a little knife. 

Did you really get your wife a machete for Christmas?
I did! She loves it. Every wife needs a machete! :D
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Desert wrote: I'm scared enough of my wife as it is, even without a machete!  :)

But seriously, I was just thinking the other day that I'd love to have a decent sword.  Maybe I should consider a machete as well. 

Which machete did you get?
Condor Knife & Tool Golok Machete:

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If I was buying one for myself, in retrospect, I think I would go with their "El Salvador" wood-handled machete. It's got a thinner blade, and the Golok is kind of heavy, though that gives it a really good feeling to heft and swing around!
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Medium Tex,

Got the Spyderco today; Amazon Prime 2 day shipping is great.  Even was delivered by the Postal Service!  Happy 4th to me.  Nice knife.  Thanks again for the recommendation.

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Simonjester wrote: this isn't a knife fight, but it is a good example of keeping your cool, attempting to avoid conflict and being fully on guard and ready when the former aren't enough..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkz3uAFlkLM
I think this guy does a better job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APTdjG6Xo9A
2 mins
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Mountaineer wrote: Medium Tex,

Got the Spyderco today; Amazon Prime 2 day shipping is great.  Even was delivered by the Postal Service!  Happy 4th to me.  Nice knife.  Thanks again for the recommendation.

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They are very nice little knives.  Really well built.

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