Gold Timing Update

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Gold Timing Update

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For those that don't like the intra-month volatility -- such as the back-to-back reversal signals of the last two days (an artifact of the oldest data point falling off) -- timing gold for long term purposes works just as well on a monthly closing basis.  So today, the last trading day of the month, gold is now in a bullish uptrend after being bearish for several months.  Typically, I prefer to wait for a downtrend break confirmation on intra-month signals to enter -- especially when the condition is marginal as now with gold in euros only +.06% gain for the month -- but that hasn't been quantified and may have resulted in worse historical performance.

B&H, post-fiat gold has a historical maximum drawdown of 76% or so.  If you can't stomach that, even within the hedged PP framework, there is no choice but to be juidicious in taking your gold off the table during unfavorable technical periods.  Or more realistically, hedging your physical buillion!
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Another intramonth, back-to-back flip (buy-sell-buy) in gold as of yesterday.

Given the detoriating breadth of the recent stock market rally, we may be looking at 2008-style losses again soon.
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I figured it was about time I posted an update.  Note that the model I used changed since I wrote the OP.  As shown in the chart below, patience is a virture...

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According to to these two talking heads, gold could be heading towards $1000 oz.

https://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/talking ... 38797.html

Caveat: I don't play the market timing game with money, and I don't encourage others to. But the prognostication game can be amusing, as long as I am not in any danger of losing money...  8)
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Ad Orientem wrote: According to to these two talking heads, gold could be heading towards $1000 oz.
Hey, could and towards, that's not very assertive.
How about "when and if": October 2013  ;)
And apparently in July I said something about it going to 750.
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dualstow wrote:
Ad Orientem wrote: According to to these two talking heads, gold could be heading towards $1000 oz.
Hey, could and towards, that's not very assertive.
How about "when and if": October 2013  ;)
And apparently in July I said something about it going to 750.
where's gold heading now? 5K, long or short gold?
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buddtholomew wrote: where's gold heading now? 5K, long or short gold?
Let's see. Gold is heading to....1278.3.
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