I enjoyed your epistle. My "short story short" summary would be:
When we start throwing poop at each other, there is plenty to go around because we each have an endless supply within our grasp that we do not want to throw on ourselves - a biological truth?
... Mountaineer
Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. Psalm 146:3
I enjoyed your epistle. My "short story short" summary would be:
When we start throwing poop at each other, there is plenty to go around because we each have an endless supply within our grasp that we do not want to throw on ourselves - a biological truth?
... Mountaineer
Well at the risk of sounding like an Austrian, I do believe there is SOME supply constraint there. But unlike our economy, said productive capacity truly ISN'T naturally demanded by the public.
Maybe we should talk about this sh!t later....
"Men did not make the earth. It is the value of the improvements only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property. Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds."
I enjoyed your epistle. My "short story short" summary would be:
When we start throwing poop at each other, there is plenty to go around because we each have an endless supply within our grasp that we do not want to throw on ourselves - a biological truth?
... Mountaineer
Well at the risk of sounding like an Austrian, I do believe there is SOME supply constraint there. But unlike our economy, said productive capacity truly ISN'T naturally demanded by the public.
Maybe we should talk about this sh!t later....
I believe you are being constrained by time - an infinite time would permit an endless supply. No shit, Tonto!
... Mountaineer
Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. Psalm 146:3
I enjoyed your epistle. My "short story short" summary would be:
When we start throwing poop at each other, there is plenty to go around because we each have an endless supply within our grasp that we do not want to throw on ourselves - a biological truth?
... Mountaineer
Well at the risk of sounding like an Austrian, I do believe there is SOME supply constraint there. But unlike our economy, said productive capacity truly ISN'T naturally demanded by the public.
Maybe we should talk about this sh!t later....
I believe you are being constrained by time - an infinite time would permit an endless supply. No shit, Tonto!
... Mountaineer
But I don't have infinite time... don't tell me there's poop in heaven!?
Maybe just in hell.
"Men did not make the earth. It is the value of the improvements only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property. Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds."
moda0306 wrote:
Well at the risk of sounding like an Austrian, I do believe there is SOME supply constraint there. But unlike our economy, said productive capacity truly ISN'T naturally demanded by the public.
Maybe we should talk about this sh!t later....
I believe you are being constrained by time - an infinite time would permit an endless supply. No shit, Tonto!
... Mountaineer
But I don't have infinite time... don't tell me there's poop in heaven!?
Maybe just in hell.
Ahh, but after the Last Day (aka Judgement Day) it will smell wonderful and there will be no poop throwers here where we will be with the new heaven and new earth (Rev 21).
In hell, the poop will be the best thing going .... might even quench the eternal HELLFIRE by 0.00000001%!
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Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. Psalm 146:3
Sounds like Putin is preparing to go after eastern Ukraine as soon as the ink is dry on the Crimea resolution / annexation.
Russia’s parliament will consider a law on March 21 that would authorize the Kremlin to incorporate territories of countries where central authority has collapsed and the local population wants to secede. The law could be applied to regions in eastern Ukraine, Sergei Markov, an adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin, said today by phone from Sevastopol.
Such a law could be applied to anywhere in the former Soviet Union, not just Ukraine. That part of the world is full of weak nations that nobody cares enough about to defend militarily. If nothing else, this should give the Europeans an additional nudge towards stronger sanctions. It won't get the Russians out of Crimea, but maybe it can save eastern Ukraine if the West can put a hurting on Russia's economy quickly.
Russian FM Lavrov and John Kerry agree in phone call to seek resolution to Ukrainian crisis through constitutional reform in Ukraine - Russian foreign ministry statement via @Reuters
Putin being emboldened is a direct result of knowing just how weak Obama is. This could be the beginning of a new Soviet Union and a new Cold War.
Simonjester wrote:
“Sanctions could lead to retaliatory action, and that would trigger a spiral with unforeseeable consequences,”? warns China’s envoy to Germany adding that “we don’t see any point in sanctions.”?
ambassador Shi Mingde issued the strongest warning against such measures by any top Chinese official to date.
“We don’t see any point in sanctions,”? Shi said. “Sanctions could lead to retaliatory action, and that would trigger a spiral with unforeseeable consequences. We don’t want this.”?
china makes a statement... if they are willing to back it up, it doesn't look good for the strength of any red lines Obama or Merkel draw..
Reub wrote:
Putin being emboldened is a direct result of knowing just how weak Obama is. This could be the beginning of a new Soviet Union and a new Cold War.
Well, the war on terrorism was starting to get boring wasn't it?
Well, our President has announced his "strong" sanctions against Russia as punishment for invading and stealing Crimea. It seems that 11 of Putin's closest friends will no longer be able to vacation in Miami Beach. It is unclear whether American Express will be taken away from them. The Russian Deputy Prime Minister asked if this was the work of a "prankster" so you know that they are truly worried.
Stay tuned. I heard that Obama may hit Putin with his man-purse next.
Maybe this has been discussed, but leaving aside whether a vote legitimizes secession, is the vote viewed as being a "fair" one?
"Men did not make the earth. It is the value of the improvements only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property. Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds."
moda0306 wrote:
Maybe this has been discussed, but leaving aside whether a vote legitimizes secession,
I would hope and expect that someone who did not view voted secession as legitimate would also similarly disapprove of voted incorporation or annexation on the same grounds.
Human behavior is economic behavior. The particulars may vary, but competition for limited resources remains a constant.
- CEO Nwabudike Morgan
Basically what I'm asking is whether the vote was handled in a sound manner.... People we're actually allowed to vote freely and fairly... Whether or not their vote actually warrants a change in government is a different question.
Was the vote organized by the Russians?
"Men did not make the earth. It is the value of the improvements only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property. Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds."
He should be arming the Ukrainians and placing a deterrent U.S. force on the ground there. Obama was instrumental in disarming them, promising our military support a few years back. He should immediately return to the missile defense shield strategy in Poland and the Czech Republic. He should announce that we will ramp up our natural gas production and become a main provider to our European allies, causing the price to drop and reassuring our allies. He should also announce the go ahead for the Keystone Pipeline, hopefully causing the price of oil to fall, hurting the Russians. He should announce that the rubel will no longer be allowed to be traded with U.S. banks and corporations. He should work to invite all former Soviet republics into NATO. He should attempt to remove Russia from the G8. And lastly, he should seize the Brooklyn Nets from control of it's Russian oligarch owner.
Obama's weakness only invites further trouble throughout the world.
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Of course the vote isn't fair. It's being held days after an armed invasion by a foreign nation. Had Crimea decided to hold this vote without Russian involvement, it would have been fair and the results should have been honored. This is now tainted despite the fact that the result would likely remain the same regardless.
Once again it is all about oil, or should I say Natural Gas pipelines that go through Ukraine to the rest of Europe.
Quite a few American chicken-hawks on here trying to take on Russia. I'm 1000% sure that if the US had only 1 warm water port for their Navy they would do anything and everything to keep it.
I have to laugh at that joker Ketchup King Kerry for denouncing Russia for invading a sovereign nation. Ever heard to Libya, Iraq or Afghanistan? He failed at becoming President, now he's failing at being secretary of state.
Obama is such a weak leader. Hopefully he doesn't do something stupid to 'prove himself', otherwise both sides of the ocean might be living in a nuclear winter.
mgtow wrote:
Obama is such a weak leader. Hopefully he doesn't do something stupid to 'prove himself', otherwise both sides of the ocean might be living in a nuclear winter.
If only he were a weak leader here in the US. Here he tries to rule with an iron fist and twist the economy to suit him, screwing with it and making us poorer.
mgtow wrote:
Obama is such a weak leader. Hopefully he doesn't do something stupid to 'prove himself', otherwise both sides of the ocean might be living in a nuclear winter.
If only he were a weak leader here in the US. Here he tries to rule with an iron fist and twist the economy to suit him, screwing with it and making us poorer.
mgtow wrote:
Once again it is all about oil, or should I say Natural Gas pipelines that go through Ukraine to the rest of Europe.
Quite a few American chicken-hawks on here trying to take on Russia. I'm 1000% sure that if the US had only 1 warm water port for their Navy they would do anything and everything to keep it.
Um....relevance? If the U.S. decided to invade/annex Panama because it was a "legitimate strategic interest" it wouldn't make it any more justified or legal, and it wouldn't make it any less a blatant land grab. There are plenty of land locked countries. Surely you don't suggest that Switzerland should launch an invasion into Italy to try and gain access to a port?
Russia has plenty of other land that is on the Black Sea (hell, Sochi is on the Black Sea), if none of their other cities have naval facilities, tough shit. Build some. Novorossiysk seems viable. Invading in order to capture the ones that are already present in Ukraine is not a legitimate solution and they deserve a good sanctioning for it.
Hell, according to wikipedia Novorossiysk is their main port on the black sea already. Basically the Russians are full of shit, as is everyone spouting the "legitimate interests" argument.
Novorossiysk (Russian: ?????????, IPA: [n?v?r??s?ijsk]) is a city in Krasnodar Krai, Russia. It is the country's main port on the Black Sea and the leading Russian port for exporting grain. It is one of the few cities honored with the title of the Hero City. Population: 241,952 (2010 Census);[3] 232,079 (2002 Census);[6] 185,938 (1989 Census).[7]
?????????, IPA: [n?v?r??s?ijsk]) is a city in Krasnodar Krai, Russia. It is the country's main port on the Black Sea and the leading Russian port for exporting grain. It is one of the few cities honored with the title of the Hero City. Population: 241,952 (2010 Census);[3] 232,079 (2002 Census);[6] 185,938 (1989 Census).[7]
