Kshartle wrote:
He's a kind and reasonable murderer.
I'm sure that Snowden would say it didn't matter to him at all that Putin was mostly a narcissistic thug.
I have written about Putin's thug-ness more or less constantly for a long time. In the case of Snowden, though, I was just glad that he found a seemingly safe place to land.
Snowden fan #1 right here. I'm not taking a shot I'm just saying you guys are really smart and yet it's sounding like an awful lot of praise for a psycho murderer and you all know he is.
Yes he sounds reasonable...but.........leaving out the other stuff is so incomplete.
Imagine a thread on Dahmer and we only talked about how he bought some guy lunch and didn't mention all the boyfriends he ate.
Putin is bad news. Maybe he stuck it to Obomber but a zebra doesn't change it's stripes.
I'm glad he did it don't get me wrong. i'm overwieght gold so yeah....chaos makes me money but not at the price of all those lives.
I can't really celebrate anything done by that peice of human trash though. It's just a scam.
Ad Orientem wrote:
Actually I've seen quite a few people making those and related points. Russia is not an enlightened democratic state as evidenced by its cleptocratic government and abusive policies towards political dissent and gay people. But in this case they are mostly right.
Regards homosexual activists, I guess your statement implies the definition of "enlightened democratic state" requires celebration of sexually libertine behavior and propaganda.
From what I've read, my interpretation is that Putin is trying to protect the health and morality of the Russian people in restricting homosexual activism. I fully concede that the values he is promoting seem explicitly Christian and not the secularist agenda reigning in the West.
I don't think most people want the government "celebrating" anything, except for maybe a few obligatory patriotic holidays and historical figures.
Equal access to legal infrastructure on the other hand...
I think there are a lot of things the government could justify doing if they got a pass on "wanting to protect the health and morality" of its people.
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