UUP ETF - Currency Hedge

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UUP ETF - Currency Hedge

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Has anyone considered hedging currency risk in the PP? A rising dollar against other currencies has a negative impact on gold and US equities. I am considering UUP, which rises when the USD gains against a basket of commodities.
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buddtholomew wrote: Has anyone considered hedging currency risk in the PP? A rising dollar against other currencies has a negative impact on gold and US equities. I am considering UUP, which rises when the USD gains against a basket of commodities.
I held it for two years at a loss. After I finally sold it, it went up.
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Mdraf wrote:
buddtholomew wrote: Has anyone considered hedging currency risk in the PP? A rising dollar against other currencies has a negative impact on gold and US equities. I am considering UUP, which rises when the USD gains against a basket of commodities.
I held it for two years at a loss. After I finally sold it, it went up.
Did the vehicle achieve the objective of matching the performance of the dollar against a basket of currencies. Perhaps the dollar fell over the timeframe you held the instrument.
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buddtholomew wrote:
Mdraf wrote:
buddtholomew wrote: Has anyone considered hedging currency risk in the PP? A rising dollar against other currencies has a negative impact on gold and US equities. I am considering UUP, which rises when the USD gains against a basket of commodities.
I held it for two years at a loss. After I finally sold it, it went up.
Did the vehicle achieve the objective of matching the performance of the dollar against a basket of currencies. Perhaps the dollar fell over the timeframe you held the instrument.
When the European crisis hit I bet against the euro. I was wrong for two years and gave up. Usual story :)
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Resurrecting an older thread as I would like to know whether UUP has a place in a variable portfolio. If gold is priced in USD and the dollar rallies against other currencies, we would expect a decline in the price of the commodity. How would/did equities and treasuries (short and long) fair under a strengthening currency?
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Treasuries benefit from a rising dollar.  Since dividends are paid in dollars, there is increased demand from a strong reliable dividend generator like long-term treasuries. 

Equities are another story, they could go either way.
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