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Diversified VP?

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Friends,

I'm considering a diversified VP, one which gives equal weighting to the following six ETFs:

UUP (US Dollar)
SGOL (Gold)
VTI (Stocks)
TLT (Long Bonds)
SCHH (Real Estate
BIL (Cash)

This seems a reasonably good way to access six sectors in a convenient fashion.  I welcome any thoughts.
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Fradika wrote: Friends,

I'm considering a diversified VP, one which gives equal weighting to the following six ETFs:

UUP (US Dollar)
SGOL (Gold)
VTI (Stocks)
TLT (Long Bonds)
SCHH (Real Estate
BIL (Cash)

This seems a reasonably good way to access six sectors in a convenient fashion.  I welcome any thoughts.
What is the objective of this VP? Are you looking for more security than the PP offers? Or are you trying to beat the VP? Something else? I guess my point is that in order to evaluate a VP one needs to first know what its purpose is.
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Thanks for writing. In a VP, I guess I'm looking for more security than the PP offers, though I hadn't formulated it in that way.

The volatility seems a bit lower, though that of course also decreases the returns as well. And I don't currently have ETFs, so I thought it might make sense to venture into them with this VP.
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If you buy into the PP concept but want more stability and less volatility, you could always just increase cash at the expense of all the other assets. For example:

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Fascinating, PointedStick, thanks for this. I appreciate it.
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I have invested my VP in the Vanguard Wellesley mutual fund, which has a wonderful track record and is diversified with very low expenses. This was recommended to me by others in these forums and I am very happy with it.
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Reub wrote: I have invested my VP in the Vanguard Wellesley mutual fund, which has a wonderful track record and is diversified with very low expenses. This was recommended to me by others in these forums and I am very happy with it.
I too have a VP consisting of Wellesley.  It gives my total portfolio a minor slant towards stocks and bonds.  It also diversifies slightly the bond portion with a big share of Wellesley's bonds being high grade corporate.  I do keep my PP separate for rebalance purposes.
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thanks everyone
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Fradika, your portfolio seems very reasonable. I think that having meaningful exposure to stocks, bonds, and some type of commodity/gold (not the producers but the actual 'thing') gets you 90% of the way there.  I am curious why you decided to go with some long dollar exposure. Would you mind sharing your thought process? I also agree with PS that cash can be used as portfolio "diluter" if short term movements are a concern. Another item to explore along the same vein is short term TIPS.
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Melvey, I think with UUP my main curiosity was to get currency exposure because I feel like the currency market is underexamined. I'd be happy(ier) to buy swiss francs (FXF), but now that they are pegged to the euro, I believe the us dollar is probably the most reliable currency.

The VP is still in development, and I really appreciate this ongoing dialogue.
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