Jeb Bush For President?

[Libertarian666]

No, he did not always say what was on his mind, which was further ways to increase his power to invade our privacy and take away our remaining freedoms.

Luckily we have a democrat in the White House now, who will correct all that. Right?

Note that I said he was the worst president in my lifetime... until the current one.
So unfortunately, that isn't much help. I did have hopes for the current occupant of that office, until I saw his true colors.

[Ad Orientem]

I may well vote libertarian. My vote is irrelevant anyway as I live in California. This state is as reliably blue as South Carolina is red.

Then how do Republican governors like Wilson and Swarzenegger get elected in CA?

I was primarily referring to the national political scene. But the points made by others are accurate. The very few Republicans who get elected to state wide office would be Democrats in most other states. And yes, Arnold had a huge celebrity advantage. Oddly I think he was a better governor than actor. He was no libertarian but by CA standards he actually tried and occasionally succeeded in injecting some sanity in Sacramento. He was a moderate who now and then showed flashes of actual fiscal conservatism. That's about as good as you can hope for here.

[rocketdog]

Short of Rosa Parks, has anything progressive ever first occured in a Red State?  I'm stumped.

Um... how about the cotton gin?  Oh, wait...

[Reub]

Meanwhile Christie undergoes lap-band surgery to lose weight:

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/chris-ch ... /id/503241

He could lose a ton of weight and look like a white Obama by 2016.

[notsheigetz]

Short of Rosa Parks, has anything progressive ever first occured in a Red State?  I'm stumped.

Hmmm... anything progressive occurring in a red state.....

Y'all have to slow down and give someone like me time to catch up

[Coffee]

Short of Rosa Parks, has anything progressive ever first occured in a Red State?  I'm stumped.

Hmmm... anything progressive occurring in a red state.....

Y'all have to slow down and give someone like me time to catch up

Most Red States have now made it legal for a woman to carry a gun for self defense.
'Nuff said.

[Ad Orientem]

Short of Rosa Parks, has anything progressive ever first occured in a Red State?  I'm stumped.

Prohibition comes to mind.

[D1984]

first to grant vote to women

in 1889, the Wyoming state convention approves a constitution that includes a provision granting women the right to vote.

Actually, wasn't New Jersey the first to (somewhat inadvertently by the wording of its  constitution and voting laws) let women vote from the late 1770s  to 1807? Granted, it was only for unmarried women, they had to own property (which was true for men at the time as well if they wanted to be allowed to vote), and the state took the franchise away from them by 1807 but for a while there women could and did vote in NJ.

What about the legalization of cannabis for personal possession in one's own home (that seems pretty much like a progressive acheievment)? Was Alaska a red state back when their state supreme court (in the 1960s or 70s IIRC) said that possession or growing marijuana in one' s own home (at least under a few ounces worth) was legal under the privacy doctrine of "a man's home is his castle"?

that sounds right..... till they took it away in 1807.....
Wyoming was the first permanent one...

[Ad Orientem]

first to grant vote to women

in 1889, the Wyoming state convention approves a constitution that includes a provision granting women the right to vote.

"Women! God help us if we ever give them the vote."
-US Marshall Rooster Cogburn (played by John Wayne)