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Kshartle wrote: They have kept the volitility down, no argument there. I recognize that is a major benefit to some. I just fear that the volitilty they will mostly be dampening in the next ten years will be the upside volitility. I can't see any path to profiting by owning them for any serious length of time.

Now if they crashed by 50+% in a short time I could see picking them up if it looked like the government could possibly pay them with something other than monopoly money. Obviously if they crashed by that much it would take a looooooong time to ever see a real return if you held or were buying throughout.
The argument you are making was all the rage in the spring of 2008.  I remember it well.  Everyone was down on long term treasuries. 

We know how that turned out.

Even in the late 1970s/early 1980s when long term treasuries really were a crappy investment because rates were rising rapidly, the overall PP still did fine.

Remember, too, that it's not just the U.S. that is seeing ultra-low government bond rates:

U.S. 30 year bond: 3.21%
U.K. 30 year bond: 3.33%
German 30 year bund: 2.38%
Japanese 30 year bond: 2.00%

There is something broader than just central bank meddling here.  We are in a global secular deleveraging period that can jackhammer bond yields in developed countries downward for longer than most people would ever imagine.

I'm not nearly smart enough to guess how it will all turn out or which asset will protect me best, which is why I like the PP so much.
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In the late 70s and early 80s rates were double digits and the debt was very low compared to GDP/Tax revenue. This is a totally different situation.

Deleveraging? Looks like the central banks are levering up on long-term debt to me. The Western world is incurring debt not paying it off. My point about not holding bonds is because they will never pay it off. The creditors will get screwed. The prez has said they will make welfare and social security payments before bond payments. And you better believe they will pay American bond holders before Chinese and Japanese. The Chinese and Japanese don't vote in our elections.
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Kshartle wrote: In the late 70s and early 80s rates were double digits and the debt was very low compared to GDP/Tax revenue. This is a totally different situation.

Deleveraging? Looks like the central banks are levering up on long-term debt to me. The Western world is incurring debt not paying it off. My point about not holding bonds is because they will never pay it off. The creditors will get screwed. The prez has said they will make welfare and social security payments before bond payments. And you better believe they will pay American bond holders before Chinese and Japanese. The Chinese and Japanese don't vote in our elections.
Within the context of the PP, however, what are you proposing?

Are you saying that a PP investor should underweight long term treasuries because of the case you outline above?

Japan is about 10 years ahead of the U.S. with the sovereign debt/low interest rate experience, and the scenario you are describing is not at all what has actually happened there.

How can you be so sure that what you are describing will happen here?

Isn't the existence of skeptics like you part of what allows a bull market in an asset to continue?
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My existence or the existence of skeptics is the opposite of what keeps a bull market going. A bull market (or bubble in this case) is kept going by people who think there are no economic consequences to actions. The US government is far, far less credit worthy than it was when it's debts were half this size and the unemployment rate was half. It's the suspension of disbelief that the debts will ever have to be paid in real terms is what is keeping it going. It's the belief that people will forever throw good money after bad and not want to keep the value of their labor.

If they keep escalating the printing eventually everyone will reject the paper. If they stop the printing the higher rates will make rollover impossible unless the government shuts down all non-tax collection functions. Why would politicians ever do that? They don't care about the bond holders. They care about the voters because they want to stay in power. They will screw the foreigners first IMO. That might buy them years. Then they will talk about shared sacrifice and we just need the greedy rich bond holders to "pay their fiar share".

Japan has a huge bond bubble too. This last round of inflation is going to really stick it to them. Bubbles find pins. If this last blast from BoJ pricks it that's one less foreign bank to prop up the dollar and treasuries. I would bet that has more to do with our rates creeping up than a non-existent recovery based on hope on a clown (prez).

I guess I would say I don't believe in the existance of permanent portfolio investors. It's just an investment strategy, not a species. I enjoy the discussions on the board because they are often very intelligent or at least interesting. The long-term bonds though just look like an awful long-term loss. No one seems to be able to rationally explain where a real return is going to come from by owning them. The only justification I'm seeing is that the losses haven't happened yet so let's hope they don't.

It looks like an easy bet to me. Don't hold long-term bonds right now because it's reward-free risk. Hold only as much cash and you can afford to take a huge loss on. For long-term safety you need stocks and gold, rebalance as required. If ST rates rise to the point of a real return then diversify into ST debt if you think the creditor will make good on it. I bet that's going to take double digit rates again though, the imbalances are even bigger than the late 70s.
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How about this scenario:

Inflation turns to deflation and prices fall by about 1% each year for a decade, during which time long bond yields bounce between 2.5% and 1.5%, thereby yielding a real return of 2.5% to 3.5% in interest payments alone, totally independent of their underlying capital value. Those who buy at 2.5% and sell at 1.5% make a killing.

Impossible? What makes us so different from Japan that it couldn't happen here? Ditching long bonds is implicitly a bet that it won't happen. Japanese investors who took that bet aren't very happy.
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Pointedstick wrote: How about this scenario:

Inflation turns to deflation and prices fall by about 1% each year for a decade, during which time long bond yields bounce between 2.5% and 1.5%, thereby yielding a real return of 2.5% and 3.5% in interest payments alone, totally independent of their underlying capital value. Those who buy at 2.5% and sell at 1.5% make a killing.

Impossible? What makes us so different from Japan that it couldn't happen here? Ditching long bonds is implicitly a bet that it won't happen. Japanese investors who took that bet aren't very happy.
That could happen.  I think there are huge deflationary forces at work (primarily baby boomers nearing or entering retirement). 

The flip side of that is the Fed and all CB's in the mature economies of the West are QE'ing massive amounts.  I think we could end up getting both deflation, followed by severe inflation.

The Japanese book is not yet shut.  They could easily end up with significant inflation soon. 
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Kshartle wrote: My existence or the existence of skeptics is the opposite of what keeps a bull market going. A bull market (or bubble in this case) is kept going by people who think there are no economic consequences to actions. The US government is far, far less credit worthy than it was when it's debts were half this size and the unemployment rate was half. It's the suspension of disbelief that the debts will ever have to be paid in real terms is what is keeping it going. It's the belief that people will forever throw good money after bad and not want to keep the value of their labor.
I disagree.  I think that the bull market keeps going because there are relatively more buyers than sellers, whoever those buyers may be.
If they keep escalating the printing eventually everyone will reject the paper. If they stop the printing the higher rates will make rollover impossible unless the government shuts down all non-tax collection functions. Why would politicians ever do that? They don't care about the bond holders. They care about the voters because they want to stay in power. They will screw the foreigners first IMO. That might buy them years. Then they will talk about shared sacrifice and we just need the greedy rich bond holders to "pay their fiar share".
The U.S. has many advantages (military, economic, and otherwise) that suggest the "printing" could go on for a LONG time without the consequences many are predicting.  I'm not saying that it WILL; I'm just saying that it CAN, and it HAS for many years.

In the last 30 years, the more reckless the U.S. government's spending has become, the lower treasury yields have gone.  I'm not saying that makes any sense, but that is what happened.
Japan has a huge bond bubble too. This last round of inflation is going to really stick it to them. Bubbles find pins. If this last blast from BoJ pricks it that's one less foreign bank to prop up the dollar and treasuries. I would bet that has more to do with our rates creeping up than a non-existent recovery based on hope on a clown (prez).
I would say maybe this will happen, or maybe something else will happen.  People have been predicting the pricking of the Japanese bond bubble for years, and they have been wrong.  How can you be so sure that you are right now?
I guess I would say I don't believe in the existence of permanent portfolio investors.
I do believe in them.  I've seen them.  I respect your lack of belief in them, though.
It's just an investment strategy, not a species. I enjoy the discussions on the board because they are often very intelligent or at least interesting. The long-term bonds though just look like an awful long-term loss.
You mean that you think they are about to start turning in large losses, right?  So far, none of these losses have appeared in the context of the PP.
No one seems to be able to rationally explain where a real return is going to come from by owning them. The only justification I'm seeing is that the losses haven't happened yet so let's hope they don't.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, long term treasuries have been the leading PP asset in two of the last four years.  That pattern could easily repeat itself with long term bonds trading in a 2-4% range for years (see Japan).
It looks like an easy bet to me. Don't hold long-term bonds right now because it's reward-free risk.
I would do what you are comfortable with, but with yields in the low 3% range, there is plenty of upside in bonds from my perspective (Germany and Japan should make this clear, since they are already 100 basis points or more lower than current U.S. long term treasuries).

If the bond allocation in the PP doesn't make sense to you, though, I would definitely follow a different strategy than the PP.  The PP isn't supposed to be stressful.
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Kshartle wrote: It looks like an easy bet to me. Don't hold long-term bonds right now because it's reward-free risk. Hold only as much cash and you can afford to take a huge loss on. For long-term safety you need stocks and gold, rebalance as required.
I am enjoying the debate, Kshartle. And, like you, my instincts indicate that the risk >> reward for LTTs with yields this low. And thank you MT, PS and others for arguing the opposite. It is exactly such counterarguments that keep me humble and relatively agnostic.

What would concern me, Kshartle, is your bet on stocks and gold. Both could tank simultaneously, couldn't they? So, as little as I like receiving 0% (nominal) interest, I am a big believer in cash. If you are not willing to hold LTTs, cash at least offers virtually unlimited upside in real interest rates in a deflationary environment.

So, bottom line, if I want to tinker with the PP by cutting back on LTTs, I still keep the sum Cash+LTT=50%. Anyone disagree with my logic?
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I am also enjoying the debate.  As a relative newcomer to the PP (about 2 years) I must also express my apprehension with LTT's.  When startintg my PP, LTT's were my least favorite asset class to purchase.  But I did when they were yielding in the low 4% range.  Being conservative, I set my rebalance bands at 30/20.  In about 6 months I hit the 30% rebalance band in LTT's and sold back to 25%.  Now stocks have just surpassed the 30% band and I will sell them back to 25% replenishing the other asset classes.  This is how the PP strategy is suppose to work.  Will it continue to work this way?  I don't know.  Are there better investment alternatives?  I don't know that either.  Do I like LTT's now?  No, but I will continue to hold them.  The PP appears to be one consevative investment strategy that takes market timing out of the mix.  So far it has performed as advertised. 
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Despite my defending long bonds, let me admit here that they actually scare the hell out of me. I'm a bit newer to the PP, and when I bought in last year, yields were at record lows and the value of my EDV holding has fallen substantially. On the other hand, stocks have rocketed up and gold has plodded upwards too. I'm nearing a rebalance band where I'll sell stocks and buy more bonds (this time either TLT or more individual bonds), so I feel like the PP is performing as advertised.

Now, if 30-year rates fall below 2%, I'm definitely going to modify the plan and trim my exposure. The risk/reward calculus of that equation is a little too much on the risk side for me to stomach.
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Long bonds scare the hell out of me also.  But if rates fall below 2%, do we reduce our holdings in LTT's or go to a shorter duration?  Craig had posted earlier about the increased convexity of long bonds as rates came down.  Possibly a real opportunity from 2% to 1%.  What to do?  Bottom line, we just don't know.
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This question about holding LTT in the PP is being questioned in other places as well.


"Dylan Grice, until recently of SocGen, introduced the so-called “cockroach”? portfolio that would “survive”? the nuclear war.  This is also known as the permanent portfolio, and it is something we have written about before as well.

The basic premise is a portfolio consisting of 25% gold, 25% equities,25% bonds and 25% cash.  However, while I still very much advocate this type of portfolio, the discussion above would lead me to be cautious.  Indeed, given the egregiously low yields, I would eliminate the bond constituent altogether and instead aim for: 33% cash, 33% well-picked equities, and 33% gold.  (After doing that I would buy some short-dated put options (ie downside protection) on the equities, and keep rolling them as I see fit.)"

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The arguments for long term treasuries being a crappy investment are compelling.

But that doesn't mean that they are correct or inevitable, and there is no guarantee that they won't turn out to be precisely wrong, as they have repeatedly in recent history in the U.S., Japan, Germany and the U.K.

That's all I'm saying, really.
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What do others think about my point earlier on holding 50% cash (for those who are highly LTT averse)? A PP with 50% cash/STTs has some of the upside protection in a deflationary environment (in real terms) with much less downside risk in inflationary environment.
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10-year inflation expectations is already at 2.7%, wiping out the nominal yield.  The difference between the US and Japan will be in the velocity of money.  So far, it seems we're at a higher level of velocity than Japan was at the same stage, although they seem to be playing catch up now.  Gold in yen is hitting new highs every day thanks to ol' Abe.

I think because we still have a stock bubble during negative real reates -- which is historically unusual -- long-term treasuries will still play a protectionary role until the stock bubble deflate.  But after that occurs, it would be quite dangerous to continue to hold such a long duration.
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BearBones wrote: What do others think about my point earlier on holding 50% cash (for those who are highly LTT averse)? A PP with 50% cash/STTs has some of the upside protection in a deflationary environment (in real terms) with much less downside risk in inflationary environment.
Greater volatility?

Is your plan to rebalance into stocks / gold if they fall substantially?

15/35 bands?
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murphy_p_t wrote: Greater volatility?

Is your plan to rebalance into stocks / gold if they fall substantially?

15/35 bands?
Yes, on the rebalancing. This LTT averse portfolio would likely have lower CAGR than HBPP. I wonder about volatility and max drawdown. I would think it would be lower.
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MediumTex wrote: The arguments for long term treasuries being a crappy investment are compelling.

But that doesn't mean that they are correct or inevitable, and there is no guarantee that they won't turn out to be precisely wrong, as they have repeatedly in recent history in the U.S., Japan, Germany and the U.K.

That's all I'm saying, really.
LTTs have outperformed expectations for about half a decade now, despite being unlikely to do so during all that time.  A half decade is a long time; a person could have earned a bachelor's degree or even a doctorate and began a new career in this time.  Or  had a baby, raised him from infancy through early childhood, and prepared to enroll him in kindergarten.

Allegedly this LTT performance is due entirely to intervention by the Fed.  There is no way to predict how long the intervention will continue except to say that one day it will end.  And no one really knows how it will end--whether a currency crisis in the USA or any of several currency printing regimes forces the Fed's hand, or whether a new Fed chairman will be determined to get the pain over with in the beginning of their term, or whether the current Fed chairman announces suddenly that he will move interest rates up a micro-notch.

They can also lose Germany's gold hoard, crash the stock markets, refuse to prosecute the biggest financial criminals, foreclose on everyone with a mortgage, and counterfeit their own currency.

That's why I like the PP.  I don't have to worry about it.  They can do whatever shat they want, I still get to sleep at night.
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Kshartle, if you eliminate LTT from the PP, you're basically betting that deflation (or even spikes in market expectations of deflation) is never going to happen.  I think that's a VERY risky bet.

You're right, of course, that the Fed's bond purchases are (all else equal) inflationary, but I'm not sure you're fully pricing in the enormous deflationary pressures associated with the demographics of the entire developed world.  Google "baby boom data" and check out the PDF about 4 links from the top.  That enormous wad of old people is crushing private sector demand and money creation.  Since 2009 central banks have been largely effective in counteracting private sector deflation, but it seems like each QE is less effective than the last.

Also, somebody suggested that you don't need LTT to protect you from deflation, because cash will increase in value.  Somebody may have pointed this out already, but  LTT vs cash in deflation is like gold vs tips in inflation.  Cash will increase in purchasing power, but LTTs will POP.  Look at a google finance chart of the prices of TLT, ITE, SHV and SHY from mid 2007 to the end of 2009: cash (i.e. bills, i.e. SHV) peaked at +1%, bonds (TLT) were over +40%.  That POP is what you are going to need to protect the rest of your portfolio, because stocks are going to get nuked, and gold... well, I don't really know what gold will do, but it might not do so great.  Also, it should be noted that the deflation we actually got in 2009 was tiny (-0.4%).  1929-1933 saw a run of -2%, -9%, -10%, -5%.  Can that even happen with fiat money?  I don't know, but neither does the market.  If the market gets spooked like that again, it could provide an excellent rebalancing opportunity, even if deflation underwhelms again.

Central bankers are terrified of deflation, because once it gets going, nothing in their toolkit can stop it.  And everyone who benefits from the current system is terrified of THAT, because nothing is more destabilizing, both domestically and geopolitically, than the perception that the people in charge are not in control.

Of course, at some point, the deflationary pressures associated with the aging, shrinking populations of the developed world will decline, or reverse.  When that happens, the central banks may well be slow to react, and inflation could spike.  But that could take 20+ years to happen.

For it to happen sooner than that would require a global flight from the dollar.  The temporary obstacle to that is that all the other fiat issuers are debasing as fast as the US both due to similar demographic problems (Japan just got on the bandwagon) and/or to preserve the competitiveness of their exports to the US market.  That could change based on politics (like Japan, but the other way), and the importance of the US as a market for exports could decline, but there are two REALLY significant obstacles to a flight from the dollar that would remain.  The first is the ruthless amorality of the people who benefit from the current global financial order.  They like the way things are, they are willing to preserve the status quo by any means necessary, and they have the capacity to melt cities.  So, realistically, for the moment at least, a credible challenge to the current order could only come from Russia or China.  The second significant obstacle is, of course, the trustworthiness of Russia and/or China.  As incompetent and corrupt as the current administrators of the world may be, those who think a world administered by either of the credible alternatives would be an improvement are few.  And if you need a third reason, how's Russia going to like it if China ascends to world leadership, or vice versa?

The point of all this is not that inflation is impossible, or that the dollar will reign forever (if I thought that, I wouldn't hold gold), but that there are good reasons to hold LTTs in the current environment, despite low rates.  If you dump LTTs, you are betting that (for as long as you are out of LTTs):

1. There won't be another stock crash/LTT spike like in 2008/9.  (Actually, it doesn't even have to be that big.  Look at VTI vs TLT since the beginning of 2010.  There have been 3 stock dip/LTT bumps in that time frame that, depending on your rebalancing plan, could have been profitable).
2. Bernanke et al.'s attempts to balance (difficult to quantify) deflationary pressures on the private sector side will always overshoot and never undershoot.
3. QE will continue to be an effective measure against those deflationary pressures.
4. The market will always underestimate the risk of deflation in the future, and never overestimate it.

I wouldn't TOUCH that bet.

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If the money supply shrinks how is the government going to make bond payments? Where will the money come from? I presume by deflation you mean the M2 or M3 is shrinking.

Of course they can fight deflation. It is the simplest thing is the world to do. It requires no effort on their part. All they have to do is create more FRNs. They can go buy treasuries, they can buy mortgages, they can buy stocks. They can make it rain. They know if they don't keep monetizing the debt the gubmit has to default. People fled into treasuries because they know the government can print and will keep paying. The defenders of treasuries here have said the same thing over and over. Live by the printing press die by it.

Do you believe the rates can stay down with the FED intervening and debasing the dollar? Do you think the US government can service the debt if rates rise? Pick your poison. Cash will protect you in deflation. Deflation makes debts more difficult to pay. The US debt is staggering. How will it even keep up the interest payments? Where will the money come from? From a shrinking tax base? What happens to the economy when the people in the wagon (freeloaders) are told to get out? The US government is defaulting through inflation right now. I believe they will continue doing that. It is possible they will default outright and honestly. That would be the best scenario. They are going to default though. Bond holders are going to lose and lose bad.

The importance of the US as an importer? Hah, that's like saying the slaves need the master because otherwise there's no point for them picking cotton. Exporting is useful so you can import. Not so you can loan the money back. Not so you can hoard paper that you can never use. The US is not the engine of the global economy it's the caboose.
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I meant the importance of the US as an importer.
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Kshartle wrote:The Japanese have so much debt that if the rates on their 10-year go to 2.5 from the current 1% it will take their entire tax revenue just to service the debt.
The BOJ can purchase directly from the MOF and return all of the interest payments back to the MOF. The BOJ already does this a lot. It amounts to an interest free loan. An interest-free loan rolled over indefinitely is the same as issuing debt-free fiat money. Japan has a lot of problems, but as the sole issuers of its own currency, servicing its debt isn't one of them.
Kshartle wrote:The central bank is expanding the money supply. They are telling us they will keep going. There is no end in sight. Prices are rising despite central banks all over the world buying up the dollars and locking them away. What do you think will happen if they ever stop? What if they actually start buying things with their dollars? The dollars will hit like a Tsunami on our shores. Americans will not be able to afford imports anymore. The effects of all the inflation are going to be evident to the biggest idiot out there. There is no economic growth in the country. There is no savings. There is no investment being made in capital because there is no savings. Printing dollars does not create wealth. It cannot help the economy.
This paragraph makes little sense. The government is printing money, locks it away, nobody has savings, but prices are rising. Please explain. And how do you propose Americans create "savings"? Are you proposing issuing lots of private credit to create savings? If so, how do you propose this is done?
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deke99,

That was a great first post.  Welcome to the forum.

Kshartle,

Why do you think that the U.S. is the caboose of the global economy rather than the engine?  In broader terms, if the U.S. is losing so badly, I want to know who is winning.  As I spin the globe I see few places that are doing significantly better than the U.S. is, but I see many places that are doing a lot worse.
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Re: What economic cycle are we in right now?

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Gumby wrote:
The BOJ can purchase directly from the MOF and return all of the interest payments back to the MOF.
Where do they get the Yen to buy the bonds?

Central banks are printing and buying dollars, holding them as reserves. When they use the dollars or cash the bonds and try to buy something with them the prices of goods globaly in dollars will be bid up. The US has exported a lot of inflation as the reserve currency in the world. When that status ends the effects of the inflation will be felt here as opposed to there. Trillions of dollars are offshore tucked away.



Normally, when a country has a trade deficit with another, its currency will depreciate as there is a greater outflow (i.e. supply) of its currency to foreign markets. That will result in foreign imports becoming relatively more expensive (in term of its currency) and its exports relatively cheaper to foreigners. As a result, foreigners will then import more its goods and services, increasing the demand of its currency, which in turn will reverse the outflow of its currency. This will continue until equilibrium is reached.

For the US, because of the special status of its dollar being the world’s primary reserve currency, this conventional arrangement does not really apply  Since foreign countries accumulate the US dollars as a form of savings, the demand for US dollars is more than just an implicit demand for its goods and services. Hence, the saved US dollars that foreign countries accrued have to be saved somewhere by recycling them back to the US (usually via the purchase of US Treasury Bonds).

The US, being in the enviable position of having its money as the world’s primary reserve currency, is not subjected (for now) to the same rules as the other countries—it can spend more than it earns simply by printing its own dollars to pay foreigners.

Through this convention, the US can expropriate resources from foreign countries by buying their goods and services with its own printed money. Since the exported glut of US dollars has to return home through the foreign purchases of its Treasury Bonds, they do not remain within the US economy to cause the problem of price inflation.

When foreigners receive their US dollars, they have to convert these US dollars to their domestic currencies for domestic use. Where are the domestic currencies going to come from? If left to market forces alone, the glut of US dollars will bid up the price of domestic currencies, resulting in a sharp appreciation of the domestic currencies. An appreciation of the domestic currencies is currently (incorrectly) viewed as disadvantageous to those foreign countries because that will cripple their export industries which they believe they are dependent on. Furthermore, over the past decades, US industries are losing their competitive edge. Foreign countries have less of an incentive to use their surplus US dollars to purchase US goods and services. This have come to a point where they have so much excess US dollars that they do not know what to do with it. The only option then is for the foreign central bank to devalue their domestic currencies by printing them and buying more treasuries.

That is why when the US opens up their spigot of US dollars and engages in a global spending spree, foreign countries have to follow suit by inflating their own money supply so that their currencies will not be overly expensive relative to the US dollar. The result is worldwide synchronised price inflation and asset bubbles.

Eventually their people will demand to keep their own production and that their government stops subsidising US consumption. The dollars will come home to bid up prices. The inflation chickens will come home to roost. The dollar will be seen for what it is. A paper tiger.

I plagerized a good amount of the above because I'm getting tired of this. Can anyone answer how bonds yields will stay down without more printing or how the US govt will service the debt at higher rates?
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