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What a great post — because I agree with it O0
One of the happiest days for me was the day China’s new aircraft carrier sank on its own.
But they are building ships so quickly and already have more warships than the U.S.

Sometime in the far future, after we’re all gone, it’s going to be the Muslim world vs China. (And, by that time, Europe will be part of the Muslim world).
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Kbg wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:43 am I actually don't mind a good attempt at shaking some things up. I wouldn't argue that quite a bit of the world has enjoyed a relatively benign environment thanks to the US taxpayer and military. As a result, many countries haven't taken their own security very seriously and have been able to freeload off the security we've provided. The benefit to being willing to do that, is that we've essentially called the "shots" since the end of WW2. We should expect that about 5 years from now that is not going to be the case and we better get used to it. I could be wrong, but if other countries leaders are doing what they should be doing...it's going to happen. IDK how it will work out...maybe it will be a good thing. It could go really bad though.
The US has been permitted to export inflation which has enabled high spending levels upon military and other projects (space etc.). Absent that and US taxpayers alone could not have funded such spending.

Vance suggesting that Greenland would fall under a US protection umbrella if/when the US grabs that territory away from Denmark (either by political or military means) isn't confidence inspiring given that such protection was also pledged to Ukraine. A military takeover of Greenland by the US could pull the entire EU into confrontation (EU common defense/forward time independent EU army) with the US and given prior low EU defense spending would highly likely entail deployment of the likes of biological weapons into the US under such circumstances (relatively inexpensive, easily deployed, impossible to defend against).

Wars seem increasingly more likely with potential 75% or higher reductions in global population levels - maybe that is by design/intent given the alternative of a forward time doubling up of global population numbers?
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seajay wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:13 pm
Vance suggesting that Greenland would fall under a US protection umbrella if/when the US grabs that territory away from Denmark (either by political or military means) isn't confidence inspiring given that such protection was also pledged to Ukraine.
The risk of the US reneging on an agreement at any moment is so high at this point, it makes you wonder how or why any country would enter into a deal that relies on future US performance. This goes for hostiles and allies alike.

seajay wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:13 pm
A military takeover of Greenland by the US could pull the entire EU into confrontation (EU common defense/forward time independent EU army) with the US and given prior low EU defense spending would highly likely entail deployment of the likes of biological weapons into the US under such circumstances (relatively inexpensive, easily deployed, impossible to defend against).
I wonder if the NATO "attack against one is an attack against all" provisions contemplated the possibility that a NATO member could be the attacker?

If pushed into a corner, the other potentially affordable response to the US might be cyberattack. All that is required is the expertise, which could be hired out mercenary style. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
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Whatever happens, the US will end up with no allies. A human being without allies is a dead man walking. Probably similar things are true for countries.

WHAT IF...

The entire (Russian) strategy is to get Greenland so pissed off at the US that our military base gets closed down there, and then Putin attacks Greenland!?

That would be a subtle thing, fascinating and terrifying to watch happen in real time.
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How awesome to see Kbg back with an insightful post!
Thank you Vinny for facilitating :)
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glennds wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 4:47 pm How awesome to see Kbg back with an insightful post!
Thank you Vinny for facilitating :)
I'll take 10% of the credit, giving you 90% of it for suggesting it!

I read it once and will read it again to both honor the effort / time put into it and, more importantly, to better absorb it and all and fully internalize it. I was paid great attention to whatever KGB wrote here.
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ochotona wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 3:56 pm Whatever happens, the US will end up with no allies. A human being without allies is a dead man walking. Probably similar things are true for countries.

WHAT IF...

The entire (Russian) strategy is to get Greenland so pissed off at the US that our military base gets closed down there, and then Putin attacks Greenland!?

That would be a subtle thing, fascinating and terrifying to watch happen in real time.
O0
Do the Russians even need a strategy at this point?
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glennds wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 2:41 pmI wonder if the NATO "attack against one is an attack against all" provisions contemplated the possibility that a NATO member could be the attacker?
NATO is pretty much now a remnant, the EU+others will spend/develop their own independent umbrella. SWIFT will decline as the EU also aligns with the BRICS and reestablishes trade with Russia. Good for the rest of world as that will establish closer trade agreements that benefit both sides compared to the US's isolationist binary preference. Exporting to/from the US will be inclined to decline, along with support of the USD with it, which likely will also induce major global stocks opting to re-domiciling outside of the US. Trust is difficult to build, easily lost and once lost can be incredibly difficult to reestablish. Currently its pointless even negotiating with the US as Trump can flip policies within hours (inconsistent/unstable). The US has enjoyed a good-decade, China has seen a lost-decade, that may very well flip for the next decade+, the ending of the Ukraine war and rekindling of Europe/Russia relations being the start gun for that.
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seajay wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:30 am NATO is pretty much now a remnant, the EU+others will spend/develop their own independent umbrella. SWIFT will decline as the EU also aligns with the BRICS and reestablishes trade with Russia. Good for the rest of world as that will establish closer trade agreements that benefit both sides compared to the US's isolationist binary preference. Exporting to/from the US will be inclined to decline, along with support of the USD with it, which likely will also induce major global stocks opting to re-domiciling outside of the US. Trust is difficult to build, easily lost and once lost can be incredibly difficult to reestablish. Currently its pointless even negotiating with the US as Trump can flip policies within hours (inconsistent/unstable). The US has enjoyed a good-decade, China has seen a lost-decade, that may very well flip for the next decade+, the ending of the Ukraine war and rekindling of Europe/Russia relations being the start gun for that.
I agree with everything kbg wrote about Canada and Greenland and it's just embarrassing. I also agree with you, seajay about trust being lost due to capricious behavior. Most of my issues with Trump are domestic, and there are many.

But be careful what you wish for. Good luck with Russia and China as your "friends." Too me it seems unwise to choose them because the U.S. president is rude. Trump talks about how he wants, even needs Greenland. Putin actually seizes territory. China is colonizing parts of Africa and the South China sea. Good luck with your new friends.
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Tangentially related .....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... erts-trump

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John Roberts made Trump’s authoritarianism possible. He could still save his own legacy

Steven Greenhouse

The supreme court judge has emboldened and enabled Trump, but the president’s second term must surely have him worried

Tue 18 Mar 2025 08.00 EDT
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dualstow wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:38 amBut be careful what you wish for. Good luck with Russia and China as your "friends." Too me it seems unwise to choose them because the U.S. president is rude. Trump talks about how he wants, even needs Greenland. Putin actually seizes territory. China is colonizing parts of Africa and the South China sea. Good luck with your new friends.
Russia and China are 'friends' - better a healthy respect and politeness between 'friends' than trusting a friend who is untrustworthy. A Asia/Russia/Europe 'friendship' can yield good trade benefits to all concerned, even if public expression of friendships are largely just a polite front. De-Americanization seems to be the preferred present trajectory, a reversal of former decades when Americanization was in vogue.
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https://nypost.com/2025/03/30/us-news/j ... s%20Alerts

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Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg says Mike Waltz lied about talking to him before Signal scandal: ‘Numbers don’t just get sucked into other phones’

By Steven Nelson
Published March 30, 2025, 6:12 p.m. ET
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yankees60 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 6:10 pm https://nypost.com/2025/03/30/us-news/j ... s%20Alerts

Politics

Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg says Mike Waltz lied about talking to him before Signal scandal: ‘Numbers don’t just get sucked into other phones’

By Steven Nelson
Published March 30, 2025, 6:12 p.m. ET
I'm not enthusiastic to defend Waltz because his handling of this situation was an egregious example of negligence. But I get what he is saying. I have had numbers and contacts end up in my phone because they were attached to some group text that got sent to me as a recipient and then end up in my phone. This might answer why Goldberg's number was in his phone at all, which was the question the interviewer was asking.

However..... there is no excuse for the attachment of Goldberg to the Signal group given the sensitive nature of the subject matter. Waltz was the creator of the group and had to select the participants.

I think it's important to separate the issues from the non-issues.
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glennds wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:43 pm
yankees60 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 6:10 pm https://nypost.com/2025/03/30/us-news/j ... s%20Alerts

Politics

Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg says Mike Waltz lied about talking to him before Signal scandal: ‘Numbers don’t just get sucked into other phones’

By Steven Nelson
Published March 30, 2025, 6:12 p.m. ET
I'm not enthusiastic to defend Waltz because his handling of this situation was an egregious example of negligence. But I get what he is saying. I have had numbers and contacts end up in my phone because they were attached to some group text that got sent to me as a recipient and then end up in my phone. This might answer why Goldberg's number was in his phone at all, which was the question the interviewer was asking.

However..... there is no excuse for the attachment of Goldberg to the Signal group given the sensitive nature of the subject matter. Waltz was the creator of the group and had to select the participants.

I think it's important to separate the issues from the non-issues.
I can guarantee you that if I'd been just a member of that group I would have looked at who was in it and asked, "Who is JG?"

No one anywhere has asked why on a multi-day chat that not one of the 18 legitimate participants did that simple task. Makes you wonder what other simple details any or all of them gloss over as being "too busy" to be diligent about.
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glennds wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:43 pm
However..... there is no excuse for the attachment of Goldberg to the Signal group given the sensitive nature of the subject matter. Waltz was the creator of the group and had to select the participants.
Exactly. It was terribly sloppy. He’s lucky the person he inadvertently added was such a responsible person.
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Are the EU and UK about to impose punitive digital and energy taxes upon US exports? UK energy costs are FIVE times that of the US, a unfair advantage where the US has been taking advantage of others - in reciprocation of Trump claims of all trading partners having taken advantage of the US.

All-in and such trade wars are more inclined to just lead to decline.
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I was starting to get the feeling that Seajay is secretly Mohamed El-Erian (ME-E) but today I was reading some FT clippings and there was one on gold in which ME-E was talking about the erosion of the dollar, but added that there is nothing and no one else who can nor who dares to replace the dollar. He stated that Russia’s clunky workaround after being kicked off SWIFT in 2022 is not something that is going to replace SWIFT or attract other nations.
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dualstow wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 1:13 pm I was starting to get the feeling that Seajay is secretly Mohamed El-Erian (ME-E) but today I was reading some FT clippings and there was one on gold in which ME-E was talking about the erosion of the dollar, but added that there is nothing and no one else who can nor who dares to replace the dollar. He stated that Russia’s clunky workaround after being kicked off SWIFT in 2022 is not something that is going to replace SWIFT or attract other nations.
Trumps tariffs are driving a shift away from SWIFT. For too long America has had the ability to export inflation, pays its workers higher wages than elsewhere, has energy at lower prices, equalization will be good. As part of that more will opt to swap Dollars for gold and use alternative international settlement methods to SWIFT - given that the US has weaponized SWIFT.

Presently the choice of alternatives are more direct between trading partners, combined gold and domestic currencies reserves. More however may adopt BRICS-PAY as/when more start commonly using that. I suspect the EU will also come up with its own separate system.

The decline of NATO, the US's ability to export inflation, equalized tariffs ... is generally a negative for Americans. Getting to that via a trade war is also a negative. Wont be the end of the Dollar, rather just a inclination towards recent 65% US share of global market cap declining perhaps down to 25%, as per the 1970's.

We'll soon see what level Trump is initiating a trade war at, if blanket/general I suspect it wont be too long before the EU responds with a activation of its Anti-Coercion Instrument https://trade.ec.europa.eu/access-to-ma ... instrument - that its never invoked before.
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Hopefully things won’t get too crazy. Maybe Europe can hold on until 2029.
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Russia?

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Someone has video recordings of someone submitting to something humiliating and shameful by someone else. That's why no sanctions on someplace.
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ochotona wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:40 am Someone has video recordings of someone submitting to something humiliating and shameful by someone else. That's why no sanctions on someplace.
There are no new sanctions.
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ochotona wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:40 am Someone has video recordings of someone submitting to something humiliating and shameful by someone else. That's why no sanctions on someplace.
However, some island with no humans, only seals and other animals ....is getting tariffs!
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Another reason I suppose I knew in the back of my mind, Seajay, that you are not Mohamed El-Erian, is that you have certain idiosyncracies. For example, you rarely, if ever, use the indefinite article ‘an.’

Of course, maybe you’re just being crafty, and only avoid using it when you’re “Seajay.”

I’m on to you O0
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