Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

[Hal]

Video editing is a wonderful thing

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[yankees60]

Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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[barrett]

Yesterday was completely awful. I don’t remember it very well. In the evening I started wondering if my extreme fatigue was due to electrolyte levels and remembered we have some powdered Gatorade in the walk-in. I downed a couple of glasses and felt instantly better. Today is better, though definitely sick still.

Kbg,

Can you provide an update on your condition? Any breathing difficulties? Also haven't seen you post anything about diminished taste or smell which seems to be super common. Hope your health is improving.

[Xan]

Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

[SomeDude]

Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

Yes but now all those dead Republicans will start voting Democrat.

[Xan]

So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

[glennds]

Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

Do Republicans give birth to Republicans?

If I were forced to guess, I would assume parents influence their kids political worldview, so probably yes, Republicans will raise Republicans, especially in an environment of tribalism.

But then the demographics say the millennial generation is gravitating Democrat so there must be defections going on. Why is that? Social media?
I think many baby boomers broke ranks with their conservative parents.

[glennds]

So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

I won't count myself as one of the guys with a self-diagnosed awesome immune system. But I asked about it because I'd like to get one. I see myself as being maybe 75% of the way to Mark's nirvana.
I got the vaccine mostly because of two very vulnerable family members. I was more afraid of delivering the virus to them than I was of the vaccine.

[jalanlong]

So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

At what point did I ever say I was "afraid" of the vaccine? I have never gotten a flu vaccine either. I think I have gotten the flu once and was mildly sick for two days. So getting a vaccine for the flu is not something that ever crosses my mind but I wouldn't say my not getting it makes me "afraid" of it. That is a manipulative term loaded with moral pressure.

I also do not remember saying my immune system was awesome and I was not trying to imply I am better than anyone else. I was simply agreeing with Mark's post that I have rarely been sick in my 52 years on earth and when that is the case you don't really think about avoiding sickness because it is never top of mind.

My health history combined with my readings that natural immunity gained from getting Covid is a higher efficacy than the vaccine doesn't make me want to run out and get it just because the majority of society tells me that I should. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I know what is best for others.

[Xan]

So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

At what point did I ever say I was "afraid" of the vaccine? I have never gotten a flu vaccine either. I think I have gotten the flu once and was mildly sick for two days. So getting a vaccine for the flu is not something that ever crosses my mind but I wouldn't say my not getting it makes me "afraid" of it. That is a manipulative term loaded with moral pressure.

I also do not remember saying my immune system was awesome and I was not trying to imply I am better than anyone else. I was simply agreeing with Mark's post that I have rarely been sick in my 52 years on earth and when that is the case you don't really think about avoiding sickness because it is never top of mind.

My health history combined with my readings that natural immunity gained from getting Covid is a higher efficacy than the vaccine doesn't make me want to run out and get it just because the majority of society tells me that I should. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I know what is best for others.

Are you vaccinated against anything at all? If so, why? Does your doctor recommend getting any vaccines (specifically a Covid vaccine), or does he count as "the majority of society"?

Also see Illusory Superiority which of course has much bearing on the PP and investing in general.

[Mark Leavy]

Also see Illusory Superiority which of course has much bearing on the PP and investing in general.

Xan,
I am a legend in my own mind. It's been working for me so far. 60 years and counting

[Xan]

Also see Illusory Superiority which of course has much bearing on the PP and investing in general.

Xan,
I am a legend in my own mind. It's been working for me so far. 60 years and counting

lol, Mark, you're a legend here too! Regardless of what I think of your immune system, your posts here, and your remarkable and enviable life, are a major positive of the forum.

[jalanlong]

So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

At what point did I ever say I was "afraid" of the vaccine? I have never gotten a flu vaccine either. I think I have gotten the flu once and was mildly sick for two days. So getting a vaccine for the flu is not something that ever crosses my mind but I wouldn't say my not getting it makes me "afraid" of it. That is a manipulative term loaded with moral pressure.

I also do not remember saying my immune system was awesome and I was not trying to imply I am better than anyone else. I was simply agreeing with Mark's post that I have rarely been sick in my 52 years on earth and when that is the case you don't really think about avoiding sickness because it is never top of mind.

My health history combined with my readings that natural immunity gained from getting Covid is a higher efficacy than the vaccine doesn't make me want to run out and get it just because the majority of society tells me that I should. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I know what is best for others.

Are you vaccinated against anything at all? If so, why? Does your doctor recommend getting any vaccines (specifically a Covid vaccine), or does he count as "the majority of society"?

The only vaccines that I have taken are the ones my parents gave me as a child. I have had no others since I was a teenager. I also am not on any prescription or OTC drugs. Not because I am "afraid" of them but because firstly I never have ailments that need them and if I ever do have something, I am the type to try to find out the root cause and make changes than I am to take a pill to cover up the issue. For example, when I had a bout of acid reflux many years ago, instead of immediately going out to get pills, I simply changed my diet and it immediately improved.

I have not been to a doctor in many years because, again, I never get sick. It is probably hard to conceptualize because our society tends to be one where a lot of people have various illnesses and therefore they are (rightly) focused on taking steps to remain "healthy" as they see it. But when you go years and never have a day when you have the flu or have a cold and you have no chronic illnesses that need tending to, then it is not something that you constantly think about, monitor and take precautions for. For people who have chronic illnesses I don't in any way begrudge them for a taking a vaccine for a virus they might catch. However, I am not sure why so many others are so obsessed with my non-obsession over it.

[Xan]

So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

At what point did I ever say I was "afraid" of the vaccine? I have never gotten a flu vaccine either. I think I have gotten the flu once and was mildly sick for two days. So getting a vaccine for the flu is not something that ever crosses my mind but I wouldn't say my not getting it makes me "afraid" of it. That is a manipulative term loaded with moral pressure.

I also do not remember saying my immune system was awesome and I was not trying to imply I am better than anyone else. I was simply agreeing with Mark's post that I have rarely been sick in my 52 years on earth and when that is the case you don't really think about avoiding sickness because it is never top of mind.

My health history combined with my readings that natural immunity gained from getting Covid is a higher efficacy than the vaccine doesn't make me want to run out and get it just because the majority of society tells me that I should. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I know what is best for others.

Are you vaccinated against anything at all? If so, why? Does your doctor recommend getting any vaccines (specifically a Covid vaccine), or does he count as "the majority of society"?

The only vaccines that I have taken are the ones my parents gave me as a child. I have had no others since I was a teenager. I also am not on any prescription or OTC drugs. Not because I am "afraid" of them but because firstly I never have ailments that need them and if I ever do have something, I am the type to try to find out the root cause and make changes than I am to take a pill to cover up the issue. For example, when I had a bout of acid reflux many years ago, instead of immediately going out to get pills, I simply changed my diet and it immediately improved.

I have not been to a doctor in many years because, again, I never get sick. It is probably hard to conceptualize because our society tends to be one where a lot of people have various illnesses and therefore they are (rightly) focused on taking steps to remain "healthy" as they see it. But when you go years and never have a day when you have the flu or have a cold and you have no chronic illnesses that need tending to, then it is not something that you constantly think about, monitor and take precautions for. For people who have chronic illnesses I don't in any way begrudge them for a taking a vaccine for a virus they might catch. However, I am not sure why so many others are so obsessed with my non-obsession over it.

That works fine until it doesn't. Good luck.

[dualstow]

+1 on Mark’s awesomeness.

I almost never get sick and yet I am convinced I have a lousy immune system. The reason I don’t get sick is because I don’t spend a lot of time indoors with other people, and this predates coronavirus. I don’t take public transportation often anymore. I cook and take food home more often, eat out less often. When I waver and actually do something social, I feel like my immune system is fighting with something and temporarily losing.

Got a booster for the main 4 buglies at my GP’s office. Flu shots? Oh yes.
When I travel abroad, especially to Asia, I get all those shots from a travel clinic. And all kinds of stuff before Honduras.

I guess the exception is my gut. I do get foodborne illnesses all the time when I travel. Does that count?

I envy those of you who have truly robust immune systems, especially the constant travelers.

[jalanlong]

So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

At what point did I ever say I was "afraid" of the vaccine? I have never gotten a flu vaccine either. I think I have gotten the flu once and was mildly sick for two days. So getting a vaccine for the flu is not something that ever crosses my mind but I wouldn't say my not getting it makes me "afraid" of it. That is a manipulative term loaded with moral pressure.

I also do not remember saying my immune system was awesome and I was not trying to imply I am better than anyone else. I was simply agreeing with Mark's post that I have rarely been sick in my 52 years on earth and when that is the case you don't really think about avoiding sickness because it is never top of mind.

My health history combined with my readings that natural immunity gained from getting Covid is a higher efficacy than the vaccine doesn't make me want to run out and get it just because the majority of society tells me that I should. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I know what is best for others.

Are you vaccinated against anything at all? If so, why? Does your doctor recommend getting any vaccines (specifically a Covid vaccine), or does he count as "the majority of society"?

The only vaccines that I have taken are the ones my parents gave me as a child. I have had no others since I was a teenager. I also am not on any prescription or OTC drugs. Not because I am "afraid" of them but because firstly I never have ailments that need them and if I ever do have something, I am the type to try to find out the root cause and make changes than I am to take a pill to cover up the issue. For example, when I had a bout of acid reflux many years ago, instead of immediately going out to get pills, I simply changed my diet and it immediately improved.

I have not been to a doctor in many years because, again, I never get sick. It is probably hard to conceptualize because our society tends to be one where a lot of people have various illnesses and therefore they are (rightly) focused on taking steps to remain "healthy" as they see it. But when you go years and never have a day when you have the flu or have a cold and you have no chronic illnesses that need tending to, then it is not something that you constantly think about, monitor and take precautions for. For people who have chronic illnesses I don't in any way begrudge them for a taking a vaccine for a virus they might catch. However, I am not sure why so many others are so obsessed with my non-obsession over it.

That works fine until it doesn't. Good luck.

Nice passive aggressive take. I guess even though i am fortunate enough to never get sick I should spend a lot of time preparing for the occasion when I might? Misery truly loves company I guess.

If it stops working tomorrow I will at least feel appreciative that didn’t spend 52 years obsessing over anything and everything that could possibly have made me ill. I have wasted precious little of my time on earth in doctor’s offices trying to prevent what will eventually be inevitable anyway.

[yankees60]

Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

I cannot tell if you are being serious or facetious? I've never heard of such a thing. Do you have any source for this?

[yankees60]

Do Republicans give birth to Republicans?

If I were forced to guess, I would assume parents influence their kids political worldview, so probably yes, Republicans will raise Republicans, especially in an environment of tribalism.

But then the demographics say the millennial generation is gravitating Democrat so there must be defections going on. Why is that? Social media?
I think many baby boomers broke ranks with their conservative parents.

In my case there was none. There was no political discussion in the house.

Once I asked my mother how she had voted and she said: "I don't have to tell anyone." !!!!

So I never asked again.

At the age of 9 I became a self-declared Republican because I'd read a book on the presidents and my three favorites were Jefferson, Lincoln, and Grant. That was enough to make me a Republican, being the only one of 2 out of an elementary school class of 30 who was not for Kennedy but was for Nixon. And, in the next election I distributed campaign literature for Goldwater.

[yankees60]

The only vaccines that I have taken are the ones my parents gave me as a child. I have had no others since I was a teenager. I also am not on any prescription or OTC drugs. Not because I am "afraid" of them but because firstly I never have ailments that need them and if I ever do have something, I am the type to try to find out the root cause and make changes than I am to take a pill to cover up the issue. For example, when I had a bout of acid reflux many years ago, instead of immediately going out to get pills, I simply changed my diet and it immediately improved.

I have not been to a doctor in many years because, again, I never get sick. It is probably hard to conceptualize because our society tends to be one where a lot of people have various illnesses and therefore they are (rightly) focused on taking steps to remain "healthy" as they see it. But when you go years and never have a day when you have the flu or have a cold and you have no chronic illnesses that need tending to, then it is not something that you constantly think about, monitor and take precautions for. For people who have chronic illnesses I don't in any way begrudge them for a taking a vaccine for a virus they might catch. However, I am not sure why so many others are so obsessed with my non-obsession over it.

You must have the same reaction I do when you walk into a CVS type store?

I see all the things for sale in there (referring to medications and similar) and say to myself, "I am blessed that I never have to buy any of these things. But a lot of other people must have to otherwise stores like this would not be in business."

[Cortopassi]

Regardless of what I think of your immune system, your posts here, and your remarkable and enviable life, are a major positive of the forum.

You know, I have given this some thought recently. My mother in law was in a mood, and fighting with my father in law about never having been traveling when they were able, and now that they have money, are too old and physically hampered to enjoy it.

While I love the pictures Mark shows, I despise traveling. I have maybe had one bed in the past 30 years of vacations that has been comfortable. You live out of a small room, and use a shower that 9 times out of 10 has bad pressure and lukewarm water. There are noises from the AC or heater that wake you up. Doors slamming in the hallway, etc.

While I enjoy the daytimes when we've traveled, the nights have generally been shit, and overwhelm the good over time, so that after a week or two, all I want to do is get the fuck home.

So...remarkable...yes. Enviable... not necessarily! I am a homebody. I like putzing around my own house, in my own bed.

[Tortoise]

My mother in law was in a mood, and fighting with my father in law about never having been traveling when they were able, and now that they have money, are too old and physically hampered to enjoy it.

Youth is wasted on the young.

Imagine being 21 years old again, but with your current life experience and wealth...

[yankees60]

Regardless of what I think of your immune system, your posts here, and your remarkable and enviable life, are a major positive of the forum.

You know, I have given this some thought recently. My mother in law was in a mood, and fighting with my father in law about never having been traveling when they were able, and now that they have money, are too old and physically hampered to enjoy it.

While I love the pictures Mark shows, I despise traveling. I have maybe had one bed in the past 30 years of vacations that has been comfortable. You live out of a small room, and use a shower that 9 times out of 10 has bad pressure and lukewarm water. There are noises from the AC or heater that wake you up. Doors slamming in the hallway, etc.

While I enjoy the daytimes when we've traveled, the nights have generally been shit, and overwhelm the good over time, so that after a week or two, all I want to do is get the fuck home.

So...remarkable...yes. Enviable... not necessarily! I am a homebody. I like putzing around my own house, in my own bed.

As a semi-hermit I can be a big-time homebody. I am not a big-time traveler. The opposite. I don't think I have not slept in my bed since 2013 or so.

But when I do travel I am out and spend as little time in the hotel / motel room as possible. All I need out of it is a bed and a shower. Otherwise I'm out of the room and out and about wherever I am traveling. By the time I get back to my hotel / motel room I fall right asleep and stay asleep.

I could never understand this thing about how nice the hotel or motel was. I don't travel for what they offer. For me they are just a minimal necessity just like having a bathroom to use is a necessity.

[Xan]

Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

I cannot tell if you are being serious or facetious? I've never heard of such a thing. Do you have any source for this?

https://www.fatherly.com/health-science ... -children/

[dualstow]

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If it stops working tomorrow I will at least feel appreciative that didn’t spend 52 years obsessing over anything and everything that could possibly have made me ill. I have wasted precious little of my time on earth in doctor’s offices trying to prevent what will eventually be inevitable anyway.

I think there is probably a happy medium. I always found it strange that when people get a common cold in Taiwan, they go to the doctor. Like, it’s a cold. And of course, America has no shortage of hypochondriacs.

On the other side, a few booster shots for tetanus and things like that don’t take long and aren’t what I would call obsessive.

[glennds]

Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

Capture.JPGCapture2.JPG

Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

I cannot tell if you are being serious or facetious? I've never heard of such a thing. Do you have any source for this?

https://www.fatherly.com/health-science ... -children/

From the article you linked:

Not that it makes much of a difference—staunch conservatives who are procreating to stack the ballot box are likely to be disappointed by their Occupy Wall Street children, and it is unlikely that the political fertility gap will have any bearing on how adults vote. Although it is true that some studies suggest that 70 percent of teens vote like their parents, more recent work suggests that parents who insist on their political views at home are more likely to see their children abandon those beliefs in college.

So what is your point Xan?