Maddy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:27 am
A large US study found similar effects for both hospitalized and non-hospitalized people2.
Wait, what?? There is a study showing 20% of non-hospitalized Covid patients suffer from new “disabilities”??
Seriously?? If that were true it should be the front page headline news story everywhere. Unless this is just more fear mongering that would never stand up to the slightest scrutiny
Maddy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:27 am
A large US study found similar effects for both hospitalized and non-hospitalized people2.
Wait, what?? There is a study showing 20% of non-hospitalized Covid patients suffer from new “disabilities”??
Seriously?? If that were true it should be the front page headline news story everywhere. Unless this is just more fear mongering that would never stand up to the slightest scrutiny
That's probably the only reliable indicator we have nowadays of the veracity of a story. If it's bad news and it's not all over the place then I think you can write it off as unlikely to be true.
Unfortunately, you can't say the same for the opposite. If it's good news and your aren't hearing about it then you don't know whether it's being suppressed or isn't true. And if it's bad news and it's all over the place, you have to think maybe, maybe not.
The eviction moratorium is (maybe) unconstitutional because the government can't quarter soldiers in a house without consent. Didn't see that one coming!
Maddy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:27 am
A large US study found similar effects for both hospitalized and non-hospitalized people2.
Wait, what?? There is a study showing 20% of non-hospitalized Covid patients suffer from new “disabilities”??
Seriously?? If that were true it should be the front page headline news story everywhere. Unless this is just more fear mongering that would never stand up to the slightest scrutiny
If you judged the US’s current COVID-19 situation only by the headlines, you’d come away thinking that we’re spiraling back into pandemic disaster. Localities like Los Angeles County and St. Louis have reimposed mask mandates on their citizens, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention just revised its “guidance” to say that, actually, fully vaccinated individuals should still wear masks in certain situations. Meanwhile, mainstream media coverage of the rise of the “Delta variant” is soaked in alarmism.
Yet at the same time that all this alarm is mounting, the actual number of COVID-19 deaths is at a nadir. Harvard Medical School Professor Martin Kulldorff pointed this out on Twitter, writing that “In [the] USA, COVID mortality is now the lowest since the start of the pandemic in March 2020.”
MangoMan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:49 am
It may be over, but until the idiots that make the rules back down on their torture methods, it's moot.
Did the mask rip off your lips, nose, earlobes, all the above? I’ve seen those people it’s sickening.
Not relevant. It ain't over until we return to normal, and that's after the restrictions, lockdowns and masks are gone. We can debate all day how unpleasant vs no big deal masks and business restrictions are, but not whether "It's Over"TM if they're still here.
I'm not looking forward to possibly playing indoor tennis/pickleball this winter with a mask on. It's inhumane.
Not relevant? I think over dramatic is more accurate. Wearing a mask while working out does suck. I’ll agree with that. Accordingly, my workouts are outside.
MangoMan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:49 am
It may be over, but until the idiots that make the rules back down on their torture methods, it's moot.
Did the mask rip off your lips, nose, earlobes, all the above? I’ve seen those people it’s sickening.
Not relevant. It ain't over until we return to normal, and that's after the restrictions, lockdowns and masks are gone. We can debate all day how unpleasant vs no big deal masks and business restrictions are, but not whether "It's Over"TM if they're still here.
I'm not looking forward to possibly playing indoor tennis/pickleball this winter with a mask on. It's inhumane.
Not relevant? I think over dramatic is more accurate. Wearing a mask while working out does suck. I’ll agree with that. Accordingly, my workouts are outside.
How are perpetual restrictions on businesses 'over dramatic' ? Ruining the economy, printing $billions, govt deciding who the winners and losers are financially, UBI in the form of Fed unemployment supplements that discourage people from actually working, making running an already struggling business impossible. You're right, I'm just being overly dramatic . Tell that to my buddy who is about to watch his life's work restaurant go under.
He'll just have to write code PG. We still have way too many people over the age of 75 who are overweight and have other health issues dying weeks or even months earlier than otherwise.
The only way to stop it is for everyone to get a mystery injection, wear a mask and never leave their house sheeesh. And since that didn't work we need a second dose and a second mask.
Even the babies need injections. They are superspreaders.
Although i think i heard the head of the CDC yesterday say that not only does the vaccine not prevent you from getting covid, it also doesn't prevent you from transmitting it.
I guess we'll need a better vaccine until it mutates and then we need another.
I Shrugged wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:51 pm
Mark me down as saying we are on the way out of this when the current surge burns out.
What makes you think there won't be another 'surge'? And then another. Think how influenza works, year in and year out. Always another variant.
Good question. I just think the public is ready for it to be treated like the flu.
Right. That's what the doctor in the article said that I was agreeing with.
To go a step further, it seems to me that the trajectory we're on has humans contending with increasingly dangerous microbes from now on. Even naturally occurring ones are becoming more dangerous and untreatable, like MRSA and the drug-resistant TB coming out of the Russian prison system. Future generations might look back on the decades where humans briefly conquered diseases as the golden age
On the other hand, maybe we'll have some kind of breakthrough like nanobots or friendly virophages or something similar which wipe out human diseases all together. I could see it going either way.
Dang, they only invented Delta a few weeks ago it seems.
For the vaxxers in the crowd, how many boosters are you willing to take to be declared patriotic by Don Lemon, 4, 5, 20. Is there a limit? Cuz after delta comes echo. Then echo plus.
This means that you cannot leave your home other than for one of the five following reasons:
shopping for necessary goods and services
caregiving or compassionate reasons, including medical care or to get a COVID-19 test
authorised work or permitted education. <= You can work if the Great Benevolent Leader says so.
exercise (once a day for 2 hours)
to get a COVID-19 vaccination
> the trajectory we're on has humans contending with increasingly dangerous government
The tech to engineer drugs is better than ever. The mRNA vaccines will reduce cold, flu, cancer.
The tech to surveil is better than ever too, soon everywhere you go and everyone you meet is reported by your covid app. All those contacts better support the Fed/Blackrock's buying all business and real estate with the money printer. I didnt know private business was literally illegal in cuba
I Shrugged wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:51 pm
In Melbourne AUS, I don't think you can work out outside. Even with a mask. Hal would know.
Mark me down as saying we are on the way out of this when the current surge burns out.
What makes you think there won't be another 'surge'? And then another. Think how influenza works, year in and year out. Always another variant.
Good question. I just think the public is ready for it to be treated like the flu.
But are politicians and the media ready for that? As long as they keep the fear porn going then at least 30-40% of the public is going to follow along.
The one CDC statistic I believe is total deaths and age, mainly because I don't think you can fake a death and there is no incentive to fudge the age of the deceased. So the latest results are shown below. I think the pandemic delta or otherwise is over.
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MangoMan wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:59 pm
Tell that to my buddy who is about to watch his life's work restaurant go under.
Pug,
I post to the two COVID threads mainly for entertainment value at this point. We can't find an atom of the horse we've been kicking any longer. Long gone.
If your buddy is going to lose his life's work that sucks, full stop. I don't know him, but if I did I would feel bad for him genuinely. But do you acknowledge the pain and loss of my first cousin's wife who doesn't have a husband anymore or do you write it off to, oh he had a pre-existing condition so too bad those deaths don't count? Do you recognize someone else can have a 180 opinion from you and their opinion has equal validity as yours and still be a good person and a serious person who is just trying to figure it all out? Who is more important in the grand scheme of things, your friend or my cousin? The answer is neither.
There's no 100% right on this topic. Like everything in life, we should seek to find a good balance.
Yesterday I going to go to a music event that I'd been looking forward to going to for the past week.
About an hour before it was going to start I received a Facebook notification regarding it. It stated that masks were required. I thought about it for a few minutes and said that would be enough of a negative experience for me to make me now decide NOT to go.
It was the same place that I'd been to the prior Sunday night with no mask requirement. The odd thing was that that night was an older crowd and this one I thought was going to be an extremely younger crowd. Think late high-school age to early college. Maybe it was because they'd have more people showing up.
I later also realized I've hardly worn a mask through this entire thing and an even lower percentage while being indoors.
During the first year (starting March 2020) I did not leave my property for two months...so no mask wearing at all.
Then until softball started in April 2021, I did almost nothing and, therefore, had few times I needed to wear a mask.
I did not like wearing the mask from mid-April until May 2021 for softball -- until Massachusetts changed the mask requirement-- but at least we were outdoors and could remove our masks if we were far enough from people.
Since then I've only worn my masks for a few medical appointments and, of course, when being worked on at the dentist or periodontist, no mask at all.
Tomorrow I have an eye doctor appointment. Will they require me to wear a mask?
Above provided by: Vinny, who always says: "I only regret that I have but one lap to give to my cats." AND "I'm a more-is-more person."
yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:54 am
Yesterday I going to go to a music event that I'd been looking forward to going to for the past week.
About an hour before it was going to start I received a Facebook notification regarding it. It stated that masks were required. I thought about it for a few minutes and said that would be enough of a negative experience for me to make me now decide NOT to go.
It was the same place that I'd been to the prior Sunday night with no mask requirement. The odd thing was that that night was an older crowd and this one I thought was going to be an extremely younger crowd. Think late high-school age to early college. Maybe it was because they'd have more people showing up.
I later also realized I've hardly worn a mask through this entire thing and an even lower percentage while being indoors.
During the first year (starting March 2020) I did not leave my property for two months...so no mask wearing at all.
Then until softball started in April 2021, I did almost nothing and, therefore, had few times I needed to wear a mask.
I did not like wearing the mask from mid-April until May 2021 for softball -- until Massachusetts changed the mask requirement-- but at least we were outdoors and could remove our masks if we were far enough from people.
Since then I've only worn my masks for a few medical appointments and, of course, when being worked on at the dentist or periodontist, no mask at all.
Tomorrow I have an eye doctor appointment. Will they require me to wear a mask?
Likely depends on your state. In Delaware, masks are required at all medical and dental facilities to the best of my knowledge. I didn't look it up, I'm going by the postings on the door of a 5 facilities I've been by in the last few weeks.
Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no help. Psalm 146:3
Likely depends on your state. In Delaware, masks are required at all medical and dental facilities to the best of my knowledge. I didn't look it up, I'm going by the postings on the door of a 5 facilities I've been by in the last few weeks.
Until I read what you wrote...that had never occurred to me. I'd just assumed it was up to each medical facility to make their own policies regarding mask wearing.
Above provided by: Vinny, who always says: "I only regret that I have but one lap to give to my cats." AND "I'm a more-is-more person."
. Tell that to my buddy who is about to watch his life's work restaurant go under.
