Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
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Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
The futures market for bitcoin is in contango. It almost always is. See here for the futures price of a bitcoin in September.
https://www.deribit.com/main#/futures?tab=BTC-24SEP21
Currently the futures premium is 22% annualized. That means while a bitcoin today is worth $55,000 a bitcoin in September is worth $63,000.
How can someone in cash take advantage of this premium, generate ~20% returns on cash, without any of Bitcoin's price volatility?
- Buy 1 bitcoin on Coinbase (-$55,000)
- Sell 1 September future on the CME (+$63,000)
- Hold until September future expires (you make $8,000)
- Sell back the bitcoin
You make $8000 "risk free" here:
- If bitcoin goes to $0, your futures position makes $63,000 and you lose $55,000 on your purchased bitcoin. Net: $8000.
- If bitcoin goes to $1,000,000, your futures position loses $937,000 and your purchased bitcoin is worth $1,000,000. Net: $8000.
Wait, but why the quotes around "risk free".
There is some risk of course:
- You could lose your bitcoin somehow
- CME could default or explode somehow
- Margin considerations on the CME futures position
But these are either remote risks or something that can be easily mitigated.
Wait, but why isnt everyone doing this?
The same reason you are reading this post with extreme skepticism is the same reason this arbitrage opportunity continues to persist.
So maybe use some small portion of that large cash position in your PP to earn sick margins?
https://www.deribit.com/main#/futures?tab=BTC-24SEP21
Currently the futures premium is 22% annualized. That means while a bitcoin today is worth $55,000 a bitcoin in September is worth $63,000.
How can someone in cash take advantage of this premium, generate ~20% returns on cash, without any of Bitcoin's price volatility?
- Buy 1 bitcoin on Coinbase (-$55,000)
- Sell 1 September future on the CME (+$63,000)
- Hold until September future expires (you make $8,000)
- Sell back the bitcoin
You make $8000 "risk free" here:
- If bitcoin goes to $0, your futures position makes $63,000 and you lose $55,000 on your purchased bitcoin. Net: $8000.
- If bitcoin goes to $1,000,000, your futures position loses $937,000 and your purchased bitcoin is worth $1,000,000. Net: $8000.
Wait, but why the quotes around "risk free".
There is some risk of course:
- You could lose your bitcoin somehow
- CME could default or explode somehow
- Margin considerations on the CME futures position
But these are either remote risks or something that can be easily mitigated.
Wait, but why isnt everyone doing this?
The same reason you are reading this post with extreme skepticism is the same reason this arbitrage opportunity continues to persist.
So maybe use some small portion of that large cash position in your PP to earn sick margins?
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
bitcoininthevp wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:08 am The futures market for bitcoin is in contango. It almost always is. See here for the futures price of a bitcoin in September.
https://www.deribit.com/main#/futures?tab=BTC-24SEP21
Wait, but why the quotes around "risk free".
There is some risk of course:
- You could lose your bitcoin somehow
- CME could default or explode somehow
- Margin considerations on the CME futures position
But these are either remote risks or something that can be easily mitigated.
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
Funny, but to be fair, deribit was just a site I used that shows 24/7 futures pricing. No part of this potential trade.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:25 ambitcoininthevp wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:08 am The futures market for bitcoin is in contango. It almost always is. See here for the futures price of a bitcoin in September.
https://www.deribit.com/main#/futures?tab=BTC-24SEP21
Wait, but why the quotes around "risk free".
There is some risk of course:
- You could lose your bitcoin somehow
- CME could default or explode somehow
- Margin considerations on the CME futures position
But these are either remote risks or something that can be easily mitigated.Phew, close call.PARIS (Reuters) - A fire destroyed some servers and temporarily shutdown others at OVHcloud on Wednesday, just two days after the French cloud computing firm kicked off plans for an initial public offering. Europe’s largest cloud services provider told clients including the French government, the Centre Pompidou and cryptocurrency exchange Deribit to activate their disaster recovery plans following the blaze in Strasbourg, east France.
Cryptocurrency exchange Deribit said its blog was down but that trading had not been impacted
link
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
Coinbase fees are .5% for the lowest denomination ($10k or under).
https://help.coinbase.com/en/pro/tradin ... -fees/fees
Much less for even modestly higher volumes.
https://help.coinbase.com/en/pro/tradin ... -fees/fees
Much less for even modestly higher volumes.
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
Not really* an issue if the prices between spot and future do diverge. At expiry of the futures position, the future will equal the spot price.
* margin/collateral concerns aside
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
Stipulated.bitcoininthevp wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:40 am Funny, but to be fair, deribit was just a site I used that shows 24/7 futures pricing. No part of this potential trade.
I'm sure it was funnier to me, because I had just read that article maybe 2 minutes before I read your post. I started grinning at the link, then laughed at the bullet.
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Fascinating! I have have never bought or sold futures of anything, and I don't plan to. I'd love to see a report from anyone who gives this a shot.
Meanwhile, very happy to have let the bulk of my BTC ride.
Meanwhile, very happy to have let the bulk of my BTC ride.
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
I would love to see a report as well. i think contango is discussed a lot in oil markets if I recall, but these arbitrage situations are usually killed quickly by the machines. To have such a potentially big one sit available for humans to actually trade and profit from it, I am interested.
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I understand the concept of a covered call, but I don't know the mechanics of options trading. That's my "why isn't everyone doing this."
EDIT: I'm wondering why the financiers, like Pal et al, that are heavily into crypto aren't arbitraging this away?
EDIT: I'm wondering why the financiers, like Pal et al, that are heavily into crypto aren't arbitraging this away?
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
There is no option involved in this trade.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:12 pm I understand the concept of a covered call, but I don't know the mechanics of options trading. That's my "why isn't everyone doing this."
Simple cash and carry strategy.
Im thinking it might be a lack of bitcoin understanding by the finance folks and a lack of finance understanding by the bitcoin folks which results in this premium sitting on the table.
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
Im not sure what any of this means. Is it relevant to the topic of garnering risk free yield on cash using a cash and carry bitcoin strategy?vincent_c wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:12 pm
If you have any kind of variable rate loan + an unlevered PP, then you should consider using futures (or options in a synthetic long position) to obtain the cheapest possible borrowing rate. No need to qualify for it and only the PP has all the assets that allow you to do this.
UB, GC, ES.
If you need smaller sizes you can go with MGC and MES for gold and stocks.
For the bonds, it's trickier you can use ZB but then you run into negative convexity issues. You can also use ZT if you want to diversify your yield curve exposure. In the end it's likely that you will have to use some TLT or EDV.
The thing is UB is the only bond futures that doesn't have a negative convexity issue and properly tracks TLT. This means that if you have any bond exposure but can also get FDIC rates then any deep cash should take advantage of the arbitrage between the lowest implied financing on treasury futures and essentially a government subsidized savings rate.
If not, I think you’re confusing an already potentially confusing topic.
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
I'm open to being schooled, but AFAIK what you described is a basic covered call option trade.bitcoininthevp wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:18 pmThere is no option involved in this trade.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:12 pm I understand the concept of a covered call, but I don't know the mechanics of options trading. That's my "why isn't everyone doing this."
Simple cash and carry strategy.
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ISvincent_c wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:25 pmNope, you're going to be schooled here.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:23 pmI'm open to being schooled, but AFAIK what you described is a basic covered call option trade.bitcoininthevp wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:18 pmThere is no option involved in this trade.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:12 pm I understand the concept of a covered call, but I don't know the mechanics of options trading. That's my "why isn't everyone doing this."
Simple cash and carry strategy.
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
Covered call:Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:23 pmI'm open to being schooled, but AFAIK what you described is a basic covered call option trade.bitcoininthevp wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:18 pmThere is no option involved in this trade.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:12 pm I understand the concept of a covered call, but I don't know the mechanics of options trading. That's my "why isn't everyone doing this."
Simple cash and carry strategy.
- 1x long stock (spot)
- 1x short call (say, I sell a $100,000 call for $1000)
Example: I buy 1 bitcoin ($55,000) and sell 1x 100,000 call against it. I profit up to 100k then my profit stops. I also make the premium on selling the call option. So at a $100,000 price, Profit= $45,000+$1000 = Gain $46,000.
Same example above, different outcome: if bitcoin goes to $0, I lose all the value that was in the bitcoin (-$55,000), and I keep whatever premium I sold the call for ($1000). I lost $54,000.
Cash and carry:
- 1x long stock (spot)
- 1x short future
Example: I buy 1 bitcoin (say $55,000) and sell 1x September future ($63,000) against it. I will eventually profit from the spread between the spot price of BTC and the futures price ($8000). See my original post for other outcomes, which all end at $8000 profit.
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Ah, makes sense now.


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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
In the buying bitcoin and selling the future scenario, I wasn't clear, are one of you actually doing this currently or this is all on paper?
And in the bitcoin example, you are trying to profit from the arbitrage, right?
In the other ES type examples, are you saying there is profit opportunity there as well, or you are showing a hedging example? If just hedging, you are giving away some % to be protected, like a married put, right? And in an environment where the PP doesn't give massive profit % anyway, that hedging % could eat up a significant amount of your profit?
And in the bitcoin example, you are trying to profit from the arbitrage, right?
In the other ES type examples, are you saying there is profit opportunity there as well, or you are showing a hedging example? If just hedging, you are giving away some % to be protected, like a married put, right? And in an environment where the PP doesn't give massive profit % anyway, that hedging % could eat up a significant amount of your profit?
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No comment personally, but does the proposed trade at least make sense to you?Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:43 pm In the buying bitcoin and selling the future scenario, I wasn't clear, are one of you actually doing this currently or this is all on paper?
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ca ... action.asp
Yes, profiting from the arbitrage. (not "trying"!

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I am interested, if for nothing else, to learn. Please start another thread. Thanks
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It sounds like this is a good something to know how to do, so yea man, bring it.vincent_c wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:51 pmWe can start another thread for how to replicate the PP using futures contracts. I was pointing out to dualstow because he said that he doesn't plan to buy or sell futures that there are certain situations that it makes a lot of sense to use futures as a tool. The PP is a unique portfolio which allows you to take advantage.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:43 pm In the buying bitcoin and selling the future scenario, I wasn't clear, are one of you actually doing this currently or this is all on paper?
And in the bitcoin example, you are trying to profit from the arbitrage, right?
In the other ES type examples, are you saying there is profit opportunity there as well, or you are showing a hedging example? If just hedging, you are giving away some % to be protected, like a married put, right? And in an environment where the PP doesn't give massive profit % anyway, that hedging % could eat up a significant amount of your profit?
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So, then to be clear, are you saying on UB/ES/GC it is highly unlikely any arbitrage on a human timescale is likely not possible?
I certainly have long positions on all three in some fashion through physical/GLD, TLT and VTI.
Again, not that I'd do this without a 100% guarantee, which I know is not possible, so I wouldn't do it...
I certainly have long positions on all three in some fashion through physical/GLD, TLT and VTI.
Again, not that I'd do this without a 100% guarantee, which I know is not possible, so I wouldn't do it...
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b,bitcoininthevp wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:08 am
Wait, but why isnt everyone doing this?
The same reason you are reading this post with extreme skepticism is the same reason this arbitrage opportunity continues to persist.
So maybe use some small portion of that large cash position in your PP to earn sick margins?
Is this a loophole that is going to close soon if everyone does it? It just seems to be too good to be true. A free lunch.
True free lunches must be temporary.
But until expiry, isn’t there anything else that can go wrong? Not a a disaster, but severely mitigated profit potential?
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
I spent a few hours looking at this this afternoon and couldn't figure out a way to hold BTC in the same brokerage account as the future.
Barring that, the separate accounts have to assume you have huge exposure. One account has you long, and the other short.
In the OP's example, I would go long one BTC on Coinbase and short 1 future in my brokerage. No way in hell, I'm holding a short bitcoin future all by it's lonesome. A bitcoin spike and I'd be liquidated in a heartbeat.
For instance, using Interactive Brokers, I could go long GBTC and short the future (BRR) but GBTC doesn't track bitcoin well enough for my comfort.
IBKR doesn't seem to have any mechanism for going long the actual spot price of BTC - only futures.
What am I missing?
Barring that, the separate accounts have to assume you have huge exposure. One account has you long, and the other short.
In the OP's example, I would go long one BTC on Coinbase and short 1 future in my brokerage. No way in hell, I'm holding a short bitcoin future all by it's lonesome. A bitcoin spike and I'd be liquidated in a heartbeat.
For instance, using Interactive Brokers, I could go long GBTC and short the future (BRR) but GBTC doesn't track bitcoin well enough for my comfort.
IBKR doesn't seem to have any mechanism for going long the actual spot price of BTC - only futures.
What am I missing?
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
Profit is guaranteed at the end. As long as you can make the journey in between now and then.dualstow wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:15 pmb,bitcoininthevp wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:08 am
Wait, but why isnt everyone doing this?
The same reason you are reading this post with extreme skepticism is the same reason this arbitrage opportunity continues to persist.
So maybe use some small portion of that large cash position in your PP to earn sick margins?
Is this a loophole that is going to close soon if everyone does it? It just seems to be too good to be true. A free lunch.
True free lunches must be temporary.
But until expiry, isn’t there anything else that can go wrong? Not a a disaster, but severely mitigated profit potential?
Vincent, no loans for me.
Making sure you are not overleveraged in the trade and keep margin requirements with your broker/exchange and you should be good.
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Re: Large returns on cash taking advantage of bitcoin's contango
Portfolio margin or something similar helps with the margins yes. But even if not, you can size this trade accordingly (small) with the different legs on different exchanges.Mark Leavy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:29 pm I spent a few hours looking at this this afternoon and couldn't figure out a way to hold BTC in the same brokerage account as the future.
Barring that, the separate accounts have to assume you have huge exposure. One account has you long, and the other short.
In the OP's example, I would go long one BTC on Coinbase and short 1 future in my brokerage. No way in hell, I'm holding a short bitcoin future all by it's lonesome. A bitcoin spike and I'd be liquidated in a heartbeat.
For instance, using Interactive Brokers, I could go long GBTC and short the future (BRR) but GBTC doesn't track bitcoin well enough for my comfort.
IBKR doesn't seem to have any mechanism for going long the actual spot price of BTC - only futures.
What am I missing?
In your setup it sounds like you could short the future in your brokerage in small quantity and buy spot from coinbase (or wherever).
An exchange like deribit makes that easy as you deposit Bitcoin and short the future against that deposited Bitcoin.
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Okay, but if that is the only way to do it, it is far from "risk free". The frequent small profits are adequate compensation for the tail risk of this trade blowing up on you in an overnight BTC spike.bitcoininthevp wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:49 pmPortfolio margin or something similar helps with the margins yes. But even if not, you can size this trade accordingly (small) with the different legs on different exchanges.
In your setup it sounds like you could short the future in your brokerage in small quantity and buy spot from coinbase (or wherever).
An exchange like deribit makes that easy as you deposit Bitcoin and short the future against that deposited Bitcoin.
Edit: Okay, I just saw that you referenced deribit as a possible way to hold both the long and the short in the same account. I don't know anything about it. I'll look at it. But, it becomes less attractive if I have to move large amounts of cash into some lower tier broker.