Trump suddenly becomes Bernie
Trump suddenly becomes Bernie
And just when you think 2020 couldn't get weirder, Trump is jumping on the Sanders socialist free money train!
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/22/trump- ... ill.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/22/trump- ... ill.html
Re: Trump suddenly becomes Bernie
Not weird at all. How many times have i now explained that Trump is a liberal democrat at heart? Seriously it's like talking to brick walls sometimes.doodle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:16 pm And just when you think 2020 couldn't get weirder, Trump is jumping on the Sanders socialist free money train!
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/22/trump- ... ill.html
What's weird is you guys suffering from TDS. If Trump had D instead of R next to his name you would love him.
It's like none of you have paid attention to anything other than CNN for years telling you orangemanbad.
This is textbook liberal new york dem Trump. He's everything you stand for except at heart he loves America and is anti war and pro borders. Those are just about the only differences he has with the Dems.
I don't even know why the lefties don't like him. Is it the orange skin?
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It’s the mean tweets.
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Maybe it's because he wants black people working and not on the Democrat welfare plantation and he wants the middle class to prosper and keep their wealth. I guess the dems want everyone poor and dependant.
Is that what sets you guys off about the guy, or is it really the tweets?
Is that what sets you guys off about the guy, or is it really the tweets?
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Lord, this has been done over and over and over and over again.
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So it seems you held your nose and voted for Trump and I did the same with Biden.
And yes, it was almost all about style. It matters in a world where you have to build consensus. But you don't really believe that communication and tact matter because it's evident by your frequent calls for martial law and revote at gunpoint that you are a true authoritarian at heart.
And yes, it was almost all about style. It matters in a world where you have to build consensus. But you don't really believe that communication and tact matter because it's evident by your frequent calls for martial law and revote at gunpoint that you are a true authoritarian at heart.
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If you vote based on style you will definitely fall for wolves in sheep's clothing. Hence the situation we find ourselves in.
That mentality is what makes the wolves salivate.
That mentality is what makes the wolves salivate.
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So, if I get this right....doodle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:16 pm And just when you think 2020 couldn't get weirder, Trump is jumping on the Sanders socialist free money train!
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/22/trump- ... ill.html
Republicans: No vote on Stimulus; $1,200 is too much. $600
Dems: $1,200 (or more)
Republicans: No vote on Stimulus; $1,200 is too much
Dems: Ok, fine, $600
Bill passes.
Republicans: no, $2,000!
Um, really?
The President has the Majority Leaders number, right?
And I've had conservative folks on FB blaming the democrats for only passing $600
But companies can fully deduct the cost of business meals!
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There are very few conservatives in Washington. The president is a big spending liberal, most Republicans are RHINOs, and basically democrats.Dieter wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:41 amSo, if I get this right....doodle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:16 pm And just when you think 2020 couldn't get weirder, Trump is jumping on the Sanders socialist free money train!
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/22/trump- ... ill.html
Republicans: No vote on Stimulus; $1,200 is too much. $600
Dems: $1,200 (or more)
Republicans: No vote on Stimulus; $1,200 is too much
Dems: Ok, fine, $600
Bill passes.
Republicans: no, $2,000!
Um, really?
The President has the Majority Leaders number, right?
And I've had conservative folks on FB blaming the democrats for only passing $600
But companies can fully deduct the cost of business meals!
The democrats have turned into communists.
It's clown world. Buy gold.
Re: Trump suddenly becomes Bernie
Actually, it's what CNN tells you you're supposed to think about the tweets. And about things in general.
I think the difference between a libertarian and liberal these days is the extent to which you permit mainstream media outlets to dictate your thought patterns. It goes along with a deep desire for an authority/parent figure to tell you what to do. Some people find that comforting, while others instinctively recoil from such a concept. It's interesting to me how well that predicts political opinion.
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Yet those three sources you cite reach what % of the country? 10%? Even less? But somehow they have all this outsize power to control the thinking of what percentage of the country? 75%?MangoMan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:18 amThis is an excellent point. 95+% of the country isn't on Twitter and has no idea what Trump tweets until CNN, NYT, & WaPo tell them.sophie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:14 amActually, it's what CNN tells you you're supposed to think about the tweets. And about things in general.
I think the difference between a libertarian and liberal these days is the extent to which you permit mainstream media outlets to dictate your thought patterns. It goes along with a deep desire for an authority/parent figure to tell you what to do. Some people find that comforting, while others instinctively recoil from such a concept. It's interesting to me how well that predicts political opinion.
That type of thinking defies clear, rational, logical thinking.
Vinny
Above provided by: Vinny, who always says: "I only regret that I have but one lap to give to my cats." AND "I'm a more-is-more person."
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The tweet "fragment" CNN, BYT & WaPo tell them.MangoMan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:18 amThis is an excellent point. 95+% of the country isn't on Twitter and has no idea what Trump tweets until CNN, NYT, & WaPo tell them.sophie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:14 amActually, it's what CNN tells you you're supposed to think about the tweets. And about things in general.
I think the difference between a libertarian and liberal these days is the extent to which you permit mainstream media outlets to dictate your thought patterns. It goes along with a deep desire for an authority/parent figure to tell you what to do. Some people find that comforting, while others instinctively recoil from such a concept. It's interesting to me how well that predicts political opinion.
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I thought a conservative / libertarian is someone who permits Trump and the popular news (Fox / conservative news gets the best ratings, right?) dictate their thought patterns. It goes along with a deep believe that they get theirs, and the rest just should have had better genes, parents, and/or be older when college when cheaper and minimum wage was higher (inflation adjusted).sophie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:14 amActually, it's what CNN tells you you're supposed to think about the tweets. And about things in general.
I think the difference between a libertarian and liberal these days is the extent to which you permit mainstream media outlets to dictate your thought patterns. It goes along with a deep desire for an authority/parent figure to tell you what to do. Some people find that comforting, while others instinctively recoil from such a concept. It's interesting to me how well that predicts political opinion.
(Just trying to reword Sophie's comments from the other perspective)
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Must be so deep I don't recognize it. But for the most part political labels are an asinine way to attempt to classify anyone but the most partisan hack.
Right now, I'm liking Trumps latest move...and in general I'm pretty fiscally conservative. I live on under 15k a year after all, I'm no big spender. I get classified as a communist though because I believe labor needs to negotiate more effectively for themselves...but I digress.
Anyways, I thought it was hilarious to see Tucker Carlson lambasting democrats for being so stingy with the common man suffering from the effects of this pandemic. Now I know Ive seen it all!! His talking points could have literally flowed straight out of Bernie's mouth and no one would have batted an eye.
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Doodle, I know I explained in the last couple weeks that Fox is also a left-leaning Democrat org too. None of this should be a surprise!!!doodle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:23 pmMust be so deep I don't recognize it. But for the most part political labels are an asinine way to attempt to classify anyone but the most partisan hack.
Right now, I'm liking Trumps latest move...and in general I'm pretty fiscally conservative. I live on under 15k a year after all, I'm no big spender. I get classified as a communist though because I believe labor needs to negotiate more effectively for themselves...but I digress.
Anyways, I thought it was hilarious to see Tucker Carlson lambasting democrats for being so stingy with the common man suffering from the effects of this pandemic. Now I know Ive seen it all!! His talking points could have literally flowed straight out of Bernie's mouth and no one would have batted an eye.
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Have we all also been misinterpreting Rush L? Is he or has he also been "a left-leaning Democrat" in disguise? Or, in deep undercover? Hiding in plain sight??!!SomeDude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:33 pmDoodle, I know I explained in the last couple weeks that Fox is also a left-leaning Democrat org too. None of this should be a surprise!!!doodle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:23 pmMust be so deep I don't recognize it. But for the most part political labels are an asinine way to attempt to classify anyone but the most partisan hack.
Right now, I'm liking Trumps latest move...and in general I'm pretty fiscally conservative. I live on under 15k a year after all, I'm no big spender. I get classified as a communist though because I believe labor needs to negotiate more effectively for themselves...but I digress.
Anyways, I thought it was hilarious to see Tucker Carlson lambasting democrats for being so stingy with the common man suffering from the effects of this pandemic. Now I know Ive seen it all!! His talking points could have literally flowed straight out of Bernie's mouth and no one would have batted an eye.
Vinny
Above provided by: Vinny, who always says: "I only regret that I have but one lap to give to my cats." AND "I'm a more-is-more person."
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Rush has always been pretty decent to me. I haven't listened to him in years though.yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:44 pmHave we all also been misinterpreting Rush L? Is he or has he also been "a left-leaning Democrat" in disguise? Or, in deep undercover? Hiding in plain sight??!!SomeDude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:33 pmDoodle, I know I explained in the last couple weeks that Fox is also a left-leaning Democrat org too. None of this should be a surprise!!!doodle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:23 pmMust be so deep I don't recognize it. But for the most part political labels are an asinine way to attempt to classify anyone but the most partisan hack.
Right now, I'm liking Trumps latest move...and in general I'm pretty fiscally conservative. I live on under 15k a year after all, I'm no big spender. I get classified as a communist though because I believe labor needs to negotiate more effectively for themselves...but I digress.
Anyways, I thought it was hilarious to see Tucker Carlson lambasting democrats for being so stingy with the common man suffering from the effects of this pandemic. Now I know Ive seen it all!! His talking points could have literally flowed straight out of Bernie's mouth and no one would have batted an eye.
Vinny
He's no Ann Coulter though............I have a signed copy of "How to talk to a liberal if you have to".
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That's a stretch. They are generally the media org. of the republican party. They take their cues from them.SomeDude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:33 pmDoodle, I know I explained in the last couple weeks that Fox is also a left-leaning Democrat org too. None of this should be a surprise!!!doodle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:23 pmMust be so deep I don't recognize it. But for the most part political labels are an asinine way to attempt to classify anyone but the most partisan hack.
Right now, I'm liking Trumps latest move...and in general I'm pretty fiscally conservative. I live on under 15k a year after all, I'm no big spender. I get classified as a communist though because I believe labor needs to negotiate more effectively for themselves...but I digress.
Anyways, I thought it was hilarious to see Tucker Carlson lambasting democrats for being so stingy with the common man suffering from the effects of this pandemic. Now I know Ive seen it all!! His talking points could have literally flowed straight out of Bernie's mouth and no one would have batted an eye.
You probably thinking OANN or Newsmax is where it's at now. Frankly, I wouldn't trust any media organization anymore. You pretty much have to read source documents nowadays..can't rely on anyone's spin.
Simonjester wrote:
UNIPARTY....
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I have been liking Newsmax when I get time. They seem to be the only ones reporting anything close to accurately. I never heard of them until after the election when FOX joined team Biden/Fraud all-in.
OANN is fine too, I just don't have enough time to listen to more than a few min a day.
FOX has been mostly trash for a long time. I've listened to Hannity tell us all that Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are bad for years. I mean duh. They are pied pipers.
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Except Ann Coulter despises Trump.SomeDude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:48 pmHe's no Ann Coulter though............I have a signed copy of "How to talk to a liberal if you have to".yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:44 pmHave we all also been misinterpreting Rush L? Is he or has he also been "a left-leaning Democrat" in disguise? Or, in deep undercover? Hiding in plain sight??!!SomeDude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:33 pmDoodle, I know I explained in the last couple weeks that Fox is also a left-leaning Democrat org too. None of this should be a surprise!!!doodle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:23 pmMust be so deep I don't recognize it. But for the most part political labels are an asinine way to attempt to classify anyone but the most partisan hack.
Right now, I'm liking Trumps latest move...and in general I'm pretty fiscally conservative. I live on under 15k a year after all, I'm no big spender. I get classified as a communist though because I believe labor needs to negotiate more effectively for themselves...but I digress.
Anyways, I thought it was hilarious to see Tucker Carlson lambasting democrats for being so stingy with the common man suffering from the effects of this pandemic. Now I know Ive seen it all!! His talking points could have literally flowed straight out of Bernie's mouth and no one would have batted an eye.
Vinny

"Ann Coulter tells Texas crowd "a second term of Trump would have killed us": "I’m glad he lost"
It's all so confusing, some dude.
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Ohhh man I haven't seen anything from Queen Ann lately. She is a woman of principle. She wanted the wall and other things promised. Trump didn't deliver and she called him out. She got kicked out of the club.
I'll take Ann over Trump any day, but he's the best we got right now. She's disappointed for the same reasons I am. I think we need him to stop the fraud but he's far, far from ideal as I've said many times.
It is confusing. We are not headed in the right direction. Maybe we really need to go all-in with the communism and take the punishment and hope we can come out the other end. I really don't want us doing that though.
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SomeDude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:01 pmOhhh man I haven't seen anything from Queen Ann lately. She is a woman of principle. She wanted the wall and other things promised. Trump didn't deliver and she called him out. She got kicked out of the club.
I'll take Ann over Trump any day, but he's the best we got right now. She's disappointed for the same reasons I am. I think we need him to stop the fraud but he's far, far from ideal as I've said many times.
It is confusing. We are not headed in the right direction. Maybe we really need to go all-in with the communism and take the punishment and hope we can come out the other end. I really don't want us doing that though.
Well, I don't agree with Coulter much, but I'm on board with her here....in fact, it sounds like exactly something I would have written here. Lol
In her own extended Twitter rant, Coulter lashed out at Trump, calling him, among other things, “a complete blithering idiot,” “a shallow and broken man” and “the most disloyal actual retard that has ever set foot in the Oval Office.”
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Once the AI kicks in and guts our workforce we better come up with something creative to save capitalism.
It is confusing. We are not headed in the right direction. Maybe we really need to go all-in with the communism and take the punishment and hope we can come out the other end. I really don't want us doing that though.
I can see the headlines...communism saves capitalism!
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Or the machines rise up, and it becomes a moot issue for usdoodle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:39 pmOnce the AI kicks in and guts our workforce we better come up with something creative to save capitalism.
It is confusing. We are not headed in the right direction. Maybe we really need to go all-in with the communism and take the punishment and hope we can come out the other end. I really don't want us doing that though.
I can see the headlines...communism saves capitalism!