HBPP 4x25 results, please.
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HBPP 4x25 results, please.
An acquaintance, a fan of the Permanent Portfolio, would like the year-end gains and losses for the years 2013 through 2019.
If anyone can provide the info, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
If anyone can provide the info, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
- Kriegsspiel
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Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
You there, Ephialtes. May you live forever.
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Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
Kriegs,
Thanks. I have already gone that path but I could only get approximations. The Crawling Road site had all the %s through 2012. Is there a place that lists exact numbers. Does anyone have it on a spreadsheet, etc?
Thanks.
Thanks. I have already gone that path but I could only get approximations. The Crawling Road site had all the %s through 2012. Is there a place that lists exact numbers. Does anyone have it on a spreadsheet, etc?
Thanks.
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Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
To be honest, I don't like these questions. What do you want with them, check the performance? The PP isn't about performance, it's about risk-adjusted performance.
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Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
The request is a courtesy for a good friend of both the forum and its heralded portfolio.
So, if anyone has the info....
Thanks.
So, if anyone has the info....
Thanks.
Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
Seriously?
I just gave you a link to generate it quite easily.
I just gave you a link to generate it quite easily.
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Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
Kbg,
I will begin my first foray into portfoliovisualizer.
Thanks.
I will begin my first foray into portfoliovisualizer.
Thanks.
Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
It's pretty easy.
This link for asset classes: https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/bac ... allocation
This link for investable forms of the 4 asset classes (e.g. ETFs or Mutual Funds): https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio
This link for asset classes: https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/bac ... allocation
This link for investable forms of the 4 asset classes (e.g. ETFs or Mutual Funds): https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio
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Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
Kbg,
Thanks. That was pretty easy- easier than I expected. I now have a new site tool. Great suggestion. I had my answers in 5 minutes.
Cheers.
Thanks. That was pretty easy- easier than I expected. I now have a new site tool. Great suggestion. I had my answers in 5 minutes.
Cheers.
Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
The one negative about portfoliovisualizer is that if you back test the PP, it says it only goes back to January, 1978. It says it doesn't have long term treasury data before that. So you can't back test all the way back to August of 1971, when the US went off the gold standard. I really miss peaktotrough.com!
Re: HBPP 4x25 results, please.
If you use the lemonade variation of the PP on portfolio visualizer it will use the full data set going back to the early 70s. The lemonade variation replaces the STT/LTT barbell with a simple ITT bullet.jason wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:03 pm The one negative about portfoliovisualizer is that if you back test the PP, it says it only goes back to January, 1978. It says it doesn't have long term treasury data before that. So you can't back test all the way back to August of 1971, when the US went off the gold standard. I really miss peaktotrough.com!

Long run returns between the canonical PP and the lemonade variation are virtually identical.