The latest "martyr of police brutality"

[Libertarian666]

Who of course is nothing of the sort:

"Jacob Blake Physically Attacked Officers Before they Shot Him (News You Won't See on the News!)"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1Cs4HzUsYDI/

[yankees60]

Who of course is nothing of the sort:

"Jacob Blake Physically Attacked Officers Before they Shot Him (News You Won't See on the News!)"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1Cs4HzUsYDI/

Can you supply any citations for all this commentator alleges?


Shooting of Jacob Blake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jacob_Blake

And, what grade does Reuters get for TDS?

Wisconsin unrest flares for third night over police shooting of Black man

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-glob ... SKBN25L0Q9

It doesn't matter if Jacob Blake committed a crime

Too many have implied today that Black people should be perfect if they want to avoid being executed in the street

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ja ... 86566.html

[yankees60]

Who of course is nothing of the sort:

"Jacob Blake Physically Attacked Officers Before they Shot Him (News You Won't See on the News!)"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1Cs4HzUsYDI/

Can you supply any citations for all this commentator alleges?


Shooting of Jacob Blake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jacob_Blake

And, what grade does Reuters get for TDS?

Wisconsin unrest flares for third night over police shooting of Black man

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-glob ... SKBN25L0Q9

It doesn't matter if Jacob Blake committed a crime

Too many have implied today that Black people should be perfect if they want to avoid being executed in the street

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ja ... 86566.html

1. Political articles on Wikipedia can be safely assumed to be propaganda.
2. Here's the Daily Mail article about the incident: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ssion=true
3. Reuters is about grade 4 in TDS. Which is too bad because I used to work there when they believed in actually providing news (about 25 years ago).

#2 - Just watched the video a few times and looked at the accompanying photos.

What is shown there justified shooting him 7 times in the back?

Vinny

[shekels]

#2 - Just watched the video a few times and looked at the accompanying photos.

What is shown there justified shooting him 7 times in the back?

Vinny

Sorry Vinny, but if you are justified in shooting someone in the first place, from my perspective.

You shoot until the danger has past.

If that is 1 or 7 times, when you fear for your life are you going to stand and count the number of shots fired?

[yankees60]

#2 - Just watched the video a few times and looked at the accompanying photos.

What is shown there justified shooting him 7 times in the back?

Vinny

Sorry Vinny, but if you are justified in shooting someone in the first place, from my perspective.

You shoot until the danger has past.

If that is 1 or 7 times, when you fear for your life are you going to stand and count the number of shots fired?

Did you see justification for shooting him once? And, isn't the first priority to shoot in the leg to disable?

Vinny

[yankees60]

Doc Rivers get emotional discussing shooting of Jacob Blake
Doc Rivers with some candid comments after the police shooting of Jacob Blake.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=353542409384022

[yankees60]

#2 - Just watched the video a few times and looked at the accompanying photos.

What is shown there justified shooting him 7 times in the back?

Vinny

Sorry Vinny, but if you are justified in shooting someone in the first place, from my perspective.

You shoot until the danger has past.

If that is 1 or 7 times, when you fear for your life are you going to stand and count the number of shots fired?

Also, with three young children in the car wouldn't it have been just as effective to shoot out the tires of the car rather than him.

He out-wrestled two police. What danger was he presenting?

Vinny

[Xan]

And, isn't the first priority to shoot in the leg to disable?

I don't know anything about this specific situation, but shooting in the leg to disable is never indicated. That's something that people who don't know anything about guns think. You NEVER so much as POINT a gun at someone that you aren't intending to kill. And if you do fire, it's in order to do everything that you can to stop the threat.

Self-defense isn't an Annie Oakley or Lone Ranger situation where you can shoot a gun out of someone's hand. You aim for the center of mass and hope like hell that you hit it.

[pp4me]

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/wis ... ed-or-not/

According to Wisconsin Circuit Court records, Blake had a warrant for misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier, felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier, and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier.

Blake also had violent run ins with law enforcement in the past. In 2015, Racine Police were called to assist with allegedly removing Blake who had refused to leave a bar and pulled a gun.

The criminal complaint in that incident said that Blake and two women were together at a bar called the Brass Monkey. At some point, Blake began to argue with a man who was in the bar and allegedly pulled a black handgun.

Blake pointed the gun at the victim placing him in fear that he was about to be shot. As he was pointing the gun at the victim, the magazine fell out and struck the floor.

An employee in the bar told Blake to leave and he refused, point the gun at other customers inside. He then left the area in his vehicle which was located by police and stopped.

Since they were told that Blake was armed, they performed a high-risk traffic stop and ordered him to place his hands outside of the window. Blake refused and exited the car instead, approaching officer.

Officers ordered him several times to stop and get on the ground and he refused. Officers had to physically take him down to the ground to attempt to handcuff him, although he refused to give them his hands, forcing them to utilize a police dog and when then able to take him into custody.

Police located a black firearm in the vehicle he was driving as well as a holster that was on Blake’s person. Blake also allegedly had two loaded magazines and a box of ammunition in the coat he was wearing when he was taken into custody.

Despite Blake’s apparent violent past and warrant, people of the community want to automatically believe that the shooting was unprovoked.

Let’s look at the facts:

-There is at least one shot in the video where it appears he may be armed

-He had violent warrants out for his arrest

-He had already physically resisted officers trying to take him into custody

-He refused numerous lawful orders to stop

-Witnesses heard officers yelling to drop ‘the knife’

-It appears Blake was attempting to take something off of his floorboard or map pocket prior to the shots being fired.

[shekels]

Doc Rivers get emotional discussing shooting of Jacob Blake
Doc Rivers with some candid comments after the police shooting of Jacob Blake.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=353542409384022

First off I am not from Law enforcement.
But police Train in shooting, and Yes it is shoot to kill.
It is mental memory/reflex/automatic/
If you hesitate once you decide to shoot, you may end up dead.

So what would you do if your life depended on it.
Let him get back in the car?

[yankees60]

And, isn't the first priority to shoot in the leg to disable?

I don't know anything about this specific situation, but shooting in the leg to disable is never indicated. That's something that people who don't know anything about guns think. You NEVER so much as POINT a gun at someone that you aren't intending to kill. And if you do fire, it's in order to do everything that you can to stop the threat.

Self-defense isn't an Annie Oakley or Lone Ranger situation where you can shoot a gun out of someone's hand. You aim for the center of mass and hope like hell that you hit it.

I stand corrected. What is here supports what you have above.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-traine ... d=40402933

Vinny

[Libertarian666]

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/wis ... ed-or-not/

According to Wisconsin Circuit Court records, Blake had a warrant for misdemeanor criminal trespass to a dwelling with domestic abuse as a modifier, felony third-degree sexual assault with domestic abuse as a modifier, and misdemeanor disorderly conduct with domestic abuse as a modifier.

Blake also had violent run ins with law enforcement in the past. In 2015, Racine Police were called to assist with allegedly removing Blake who had refused to leave a bar and pulled a gun.

The criminal complaint in that incident said that Blake and two women were together at a bar called the Brass Monkey. At some point, Blake began to argue with a man who was in the bar and allegedly pulled a black handgun.

Blake pointed the gun at the victim placing him in fear that he was about to be shot. As he was pointing the gun at the victim, the magazine fell out and struck the floor.

An employee in the bar told Blake to leave and he refused, point the gun at other customers inside. He then left the area in his vehicle which was located by police and stopped.

Since they were told that Blake was armed, they performed a high-risk traffic stop and ordered him to place his hands outside of the window. Blake refused and exited the car instead, approaching officer.

Officers ordered him several times to stop and get on the ground and he refused. Officers had to physically take him down to the ground to attempt to handcuff him, although he refused to give them his hands, forcing them to utilize a police dog and when then able to take him into custody.

Police located a black firearm in the vehicle he was driving as well as a holster that was on Blake’s person. Blake also allegedly had two loaded magazines and a box of ammunition in the coat he was wearing when he was taken into custody.

Despite Blake’s apparent violent past and warrant, people of the community want to automatically believe that the shooting was unprovoked.

Let’s look at the facts:

-There is at least one shot in the video where it appears he may be armed

-He had violent warrants out for his arrest

-He had already physically resisted officers trying to take him into custody

-He refused numerous lawful orders to stop

-Witnesses heard officers yelling to drop ‘the knife’

-It appears Blake was attempting to take something off of his floorboard or map pocket prior to the shots being fired.

So he's a typical Democrat "martyr of police brutality" then.

[Cortopassi]

I've only been watching this from the sidelines, can I ask one question without getting my head ripped off?

Before he walked around the side of the car and started in, he was seemingly on the ground with a couple cops on him, maybe tased already?

How/Why on earth was he allowed/able to get away from that and walk around his car?

This situation is totally different from Floyd's, for sure. He was reaching into his car for who knows what. I'm just wondering why it got that far.

[pp4me]

I've only been watching this from the sidelines, can I ask one question without getting my head ripped off?

Before he walked around the side of the car and started in, he was seemingly on the ground with a couple cops on him, maybe tased already?

How/Why on earth was he allowed/able to get away from that and walk around his car?

This situation is totally different from Floyd's, for sure. He was reaching into his car for who knows what. I'm just wondering why it got that far.

I don't think he was "allowed" to do it. I can't find the link but I was reading somewhere the other day about the phenomenon or an aresstee gaining almost supernatural strength from a rush of Adrenalin combined with rage. There was actually a name for it which I don't recall but you see this is a lot in these kinds of incidents, the recent one in Georgia where the man overpowered the cops and took one of their tasers being another example. The George Floyd incident too, with the added fuel of drugs in the man's system. And it isn't only a black thing.

I don't know what the cops are supposed to do in these situations - just let the person go if they don't want to be arrested?

[Tortoise]

I'm calling it now: Toxicology reports will show that Blake had drugs in his system.

It's the fact that after breaking free from a scuffle with two cops, he walked at a normal speed around the front of his car to the driver-side door to open it. He didn't run away like a normal person who's overpowered and managed to break free from a major scuffle -- he walked away.

Dude was probably under the influence of something. Drugged up people are often much harder to subdue than sober people.