Coronavirus General Discussion

[Libertarian666]

My ex was released yesterday ..she said if they catch it early on there is a three drug cocktail they have been using that has been fairly effective .....she couldn’t breath and talk when she went in on Friday .they gave it to her for a day ....she is home recuperating but feels so much better ......

Do you know what the three drugs are? That could be useful information.

[mathjak107]

No. ... she has not been communicating much since she got home so at this point I have no idea .... I will try googling it

[mathjak107]

It looks like a cocktail of hiv and flu drops from what I read....

[Don]

My ex was released yesterday ..she said if they catch it early on there is a three drug cocktail they have been using that has been fairly effective .....she couldn’t breath and talk when she went in on Friday .they gave it to her for a day ....she is home recuperating but feels so much better ......

Is the three drug cocktail the malaria drug, Zpac, plus zinc?

[dualstow]

This article was written by William McGurn, but I swear it was composed by our own Benko.

Harvard’s China Virus

Some of the same people who fret so loudly about how we refer to Covid-19 are utterly indifferent to this other racial discrimination affecting Chinese-Americans.

Start with the mayor of New York, Bill de Blasio. After Mr. Trump tweeted out a reference to “the China virus” earlier this month, Mr. de Blasio clapped back. Asian-Americans, the mayor thundered, “don’t need you fueling more bigotry.”

If someone fuels bigotry by calling a virus a name accurately derived from its geographic origins, what about a mayor who works overtime to reduce the number of Asian-Americans in his city’s most competitive public high schools, not because they haven’t earned their entry but because they aren’t the right race.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/harvards-c ... 1585585597

I agree. DiBlasio is the worst. He also encouraged New Yorkers to go out and see a movie at the beginning of this outbreak.

[Smith1776]

Have you guys taken the self-isolation/quarantine opportunity to watch National Treasure yet this year?

Better get it done before June 17th (HB's birthday), or you get auto-banned from the forum.

[yankees60]

How the AMOUNT of the coronavirus you get infected with could decide whether you suffer mild or severe symptoms

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... mailonline

[Smith1776]

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/taleb ... 13998.html

Taleb on Coronavirus and the markets:

“The worst thing you can do with insurance is try to time it,” Taleb, a distinguished professor of risk engineering at New York University, said in an interview Monday on Bloomberg Television. “If you don’t have tail insurance, you don’t have a portfolio. Your portfolio is going to blow up.”

[Libertarian666]

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/taleb ... 13998.html

Taleb on Coronavirus and the markets:

“The worst thing you can do with insurance is try to time it,” Taleb, a distinguished professor of risk engineering at New York University, said in an interview Monday on Bloomberg Television. “If you don’t have tail insurance, you don’t have a portfolio. Your portfolio is going to blow up.”

Yes, that seems correct.

[shekels]

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/taleb ... 13998.html

Taleb on Coronavirus and the markets:

“The worst thing you can do with insurance is try to time it,” Taleb, a distinguished professor of risk engineering at New York University, said in an interview Monday on Bloomberg Television. “If you don’t have tail insurance, you don’t have a portfolio. Your portfolio is going to blow up.”

Video for article
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2 ... able-video


He also says "This is the strongest statistical association I've seen w/ respect to the virus. Wear a mask, mandate others to wear masks, & remember that @WHO is criminally incompetent. To repeat:@WHO is criminally incompetent. PS-Don't get into elevators, buses, etc. unless your mask in N95 "

[Mark Leavy]

He also says "This is the strongest statistical association I've seen w/ respect to the virus. Wear a mask, mandate others to wear masks, & remember that @WHO is criminally incompetent. To repeat:@WHO is criminally incompetent. PS-Don't get into elevators, buses, etc. unless your mask in N95 "

One of the things that I appreciate about Taleb is that he explains his reasoning. He's not saying "wear a mask because it works". He says "wear a mask because it is asymmetric". Meaning that there could be a high likelihood that wearing a mask is a small net negative (it doesn't do anything and it is annoying) versus a small chance that it is hugely positive (It wards off the apocalypse)

[shekels]

He also says "This is the strongest statistical association I've seen w/ respect to the virus. Wear a mask, mandate others to wear masks, & remember that @WHO is criminally incompetent. To repeat:@WHO is criminally incompetent. PS-Don't get into elevators, buses, etc. unless your mask in N95 "

One of the things that I appreciate about Taleb is that he explains his reasoning. He's not saying "wear a mask because it works". He says "wear a mask because it is asymmetric". Meaning that there could be a high likelihood that wearing a mask is a small net negative (it doesn't do anything and it is annoying) versus a small chance that it is hugely positive (It wards off the apocalypse)

I agree that wearing a mask does not have many negatives.
Except looking different than other store shoppers.
We may be wearing Mask as new Normal if this goes on much longer.

[Tortoise]

We may be wearing Mask as new Normal if this goes on much longer.

Things certainly seem to be moving quickly in that direction:

The CDC is said to be considering asking people to cover their face in public — but would reserve masks for medical workers
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronav ... ics-2020-3

[shekels]

We may be wearing Mask as new Normal if this goes on much longer.

Things certainly seem to be moving quickly in that direction:

The CDC is said to be considering asking people to cover their face in public — but would reserve masks for medical workers
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronav ... ics-2020-3

The CDC must have been stuck in traffic.
What would they say if there were enough masks to go around ?

[Cortopassi]

We may be wearing Mask as new Normal if this goes on much longer.

Things certainly seem to be moving quickly in that direction:

The CDC is said to be considering asking people to cover their face in public — but would reserve masks for medical workers
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronav ... ics-2020-3

The CDC must have been stuck in traffic.
What would they say if there were enough masks to go around ?

Doesn't that top circled group include China, where for sure they wear masks?

[yankees60]

I believe that our Massachusetts governor has announced that all non-essential businesses are to be remained closed through May 4th.

Therefore after just getting that news I was quite surprised when shortly after I went outside to cross my street to get the mail that I had to wait as a total of about eight cars were going by in either direction. There was also someone going by on a bicycle.

I've just officially passed the two week mark of not being in the presence of any other human being or buying any food.

I'm seeing that my not-normal lifestyle has left me well-positioned for much of the aspects of today's life living under this virus.

Vinny

[Kriegsspiel]

Even taking such common-sense precautions as washing hands is often an unaffordable luxury to the half of the population. . . Even seemingly costless social distancing is hard to implement. Our lifestyle is deeply communal, with extended families traditionally sharing the burdens and bounties of life together, eating meals from the same plate.

A virus that ignores borders cannot be tackled successfully like this.

Momentary victory by a rich country in controlling the virus at a national level, coupled with travel bans and border closures, may give a semblance of accomplishment. But we all know this is a stopgap.

It's funny, he seems to be making the opposite argument.

all of Africa’s development partners must ensure that their development aid budgets remain ringfenced and are not diverted to domestic priorities. link

Ahhh.

Coincidentally, I was just thinking that all foreign aid should be diverted to domestic priorities right now.

[dualstow]

bleep bloop, I'm a bot. kriegs seems to be quoting from this page:

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quiet, you

If Covid-19 is not beaten in Africa it will return to haunt us all | Free to read      
Only a global victory can end this pandemic, not a temporary rich countries’ win 

https://www.ft.com/content/c12a09c8-6db ... bea055720b

[Libertarian666]

bleep bloop, I'm a bot. kriegs seems to be quoting from this page:

Please use the sharing tools found via the share button at the top or side of articles. Copying articles to share with others is a breach of -

quiet, you

If Covid-19 is not beaten in Africa it will return to haunt us all | Free to read      
Only a global victory can end this pandemic, not a temporary rich countries’ win 

https://www.ft.com/content/c12a09c8-6db ... bea055720b

How about if we require quarantine for travelers from countries that host pandemic illnesses? That should help.

[Libertarian666]

Even taking such common-sense precautions as washing hands is often an unaffordable luxury to the half of the population. . . Even seemingly costless social distancing is hard to implement. Our lifestyle is deeply communal, with extended families traditionally sharing the burdens and bounties of life together, eating meals from the same plate.

A virus that ignores borders cannot be tackled successfully like this.

Momentary victory by a rich country in controlling the virus at a national level, coupled with travel bans and border closures, may give a semblance of accomplishment. But we all know this is a stopgap.

It's funny, he seems to be making the opposite argument.

all of Africa’s development partners must ensure that their development aid budgets remain ringfenced and are not diverted to domestic priorities. link

Ahhh.

Coincidentally, I was just thinking that all foreign aid should be diverted to domestic priorities right now.

Foreign aid to "developing" countries is money down a rathole. All it does is make the rats bigger.

[yankees60]

I am just finally viewing the attached that had been sent to me 12 days ago.

Look at the slide on page 5 -- "Keeping the Workplace Safe".

In just 12 days since what is on there feels like it is now ancient history!

There could be some information on some of the slides of value to you regarding what certain new employment laws there are regarding the virus.

Vinny

March 19th Webinar Slides.pdf

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[Tortoise]

I am just finally viewing the attached that had been sent to me 12 days ago.
[...]
In just 12 days since what is on there feels like it is now ancient history!

Yup. Yesterday my dad emailed me a coronavirus article written by Dr. Fauci et al. in the New England Journal of Medicine on Feb 26. Over a month ago.

I didn't have the heart to tell him that given how quickly things have been moving and new data has been pouring in each day, a month-old coronavirus article may as well have been written in the Jurassic Era.

[Hal]

Funny how other policies are implemented during the virus.....

https://www.facebook.com/adamseconomics ... 0291107633

[yankees60]

He also says "This is the strongest statistical association I've seen w/ respect to the virus. Wear a mask, mandate others to wear masks, & remember that @WHO is criminally incompetent. To repeat:@WHO is criminally incompetent. PS-Don't get into elevators, buses, etc. unless your mask in N95 "

One of the things that I appreciate about Taleb is that he explains his reasoning. He's not saying "wear a mask because it works". He says "wear a mask because it is asymmetric". Meaning that there could be a high likelihood that wearing a mask is a small net negative (it doesn't do anything and it is annoying) versus a small chance that it is hugely positive (It wards off the apocalypse)

Another view of Taleb from an emergency room doctor:

"I like Taleb in general, but the whole thing about N95s is so misguided. A. If you're wearing a correctly fitted N95 it's incredibly unpleasant. B. There is no evidence that an N95 is better than a regular plain old surgical mask (which is actually comfortable to wear).



I agree that there is possibly an advantage to wearing a mask vs not wearing a mask. And in Asia it has certainly been well received. The main advantage in my mind is that people are infectious for several days prior to having symptoms, and if everyone is wearing a mask then those people are wearing a mask too, without realizing they are helping to prevent the spread of their ilness.
"

Vinny

[Kriegsspiel]

"I like Taleb in general, but the whole thing about N95s is so misguided. A. If you're wearing a correctly fitted N95 it's incredibly unpleasant.

I've worn them a few times doing house projects and they are not comfortable at all.