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Will Trump be Re-elected?

Trump is more effective than people are willing to admit [ala Scott Adams] and will be re-elected.
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Hillary will run again in 2020, and thus Trump will beat her again.
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Trump will cause the GOP to lose one or both houses of congress in the mid-term elections.
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The Dems in congress will be so insufferable, Trumps wins by a small margin despite them.
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Trump will choose not to run for re-election, since he never really wanted the job anyway.
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Trump is a disaster and will lose by a landslide.
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Trump will not only lose, but will lose to a candidate so far to the left that people will wish he'd stayed.
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Other, please elaborate.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by vnatale » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 pm

I had always believed it to be true and this is the first time I'd ever read any doubt regarding it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html

"President Johnson was deflated by Cronkite’s report, saying, “If I’ve lost Cronkite, I’ve lost Middle America.”"

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I don't know what will be on the news tonight with all the networks except Fox but I really don't need to watch to make a prediction. The main topic of conversation will be the godawful thing that Donald Trump did or said that day which will be the most outrageous thing that any American president ever did or said, leaving everyone in a state of total shock with heads still reeling in disbelief on every single show.

It's kind of like a drug addict who keeps needing a bigger and bigger fix.

One thing I've been noticing lately is something that makes me think he might actually be impeached and even removed from office.It's kind of like when Walter Cronkite turned against the war in Vietnam and Johnson said if I've lost Walter Cronkite, I've lost America (I've heard that is a fake quote and he never really said it but it works for the sake of this post).

In this case Water Cronkite is Matt Drudge. He seems to be clearly in the anti-Trump camp nowadays.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by vnatale » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:07 pm

He was a "major influence"! I remember seeing this on his web site when it happened.

http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/this-d ... dal-92266/

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jacksonm2 wrote:
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:35 pm
jacksonm2 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:04 pm
I don't know what will be on the news tonight with all the networks except Fox but I really don't need to watch to make a prediction. The main topic of conversation will be the godawful thing that Donald Trump did or said that day which will be the most outrageous thing that any American president ever did or said, leaving everyone in a state of total shock with heads still reeling in disbelief on every single show.

It's kind of like a drug addict who keeps needing a bigger and bigger fix.

One thing I've been noticing lately is something that makes me think he might actually be impeached and even removed from office.It's kind of like when Walter Cronkite turned against the war in Vietnam and Johnson said if I've lost Walter Cronkite, I've lost America (I've heard that is a fake quote and he never really said it but it works for the sake of this post).

In this case Water Cronkite is Matt Drudge. He seems to be clearly in the anti-Trump camp nowadays.
Drudge has been in the anti-Trump camp for quite awhile.

I don't think that means very much.
Time will tell but I thought it was very significant when he apparently decided to go full-in on the impeachment of Trump. Every day he highlights all of the most negative stories and links to none on the opposite side. A lot of people now credit him for being a major influence on the Clinton impeachment so the fact that he is now doing the same thing with Trump seems pretty significant to me. I think they call people like him on the internet nowadays "influencers".

When I sit down in front of my computer to read the news every day, his website is at the top of my list and I know a lot of people who agree with me.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by technovelist » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:57 pm

jacksonm2 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:00 pm
technovelist wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:35 pm
jacksonm2 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:04 pm
I don't know what will be on the news tonight with all the networks except Fox but I really don't need to watch to make a prediction. The main topic of conversation will be the godawful thing that Donald Trump did or said that day which will be the most outrageous thing that any American president ever did or said, leaving everyone in a state of total shock with heads still reeling in disbelief on every single show.

It's kind of like a drug addict who keeps needing a bigger and bigger fix.

One thing I've been noticing lately is something that makes me think he might actually be impeached and even removed from office.It's kind of like when Walter Cronkite turned against the war in Vietnam and Johnson said if I've lost Walter Cronkite, I've lost America (I've heard that is a fake quote and he never really said it but it works for the sake of this post).

In this case Water Cronkite is Matt Drudge. He seems to be clearly in the anti-Trump camp nowadays.
Drudge has been in the anti-Trump camp for quite awhile.

I don't think that means very much.
Time will tell but I thought it was very significant when he apparently decided to go full-in on the impeachment of Trump. Every day he highlights all of the most negative stories and links to none on the opposite side. A lot of people now credit him for being a major influence on the Clinton impeachment so the fact that he is now doing the same thing with Trump seems pretty significant to me. I think they call people like him on the internet nowadays "influencers".

When I sit down in front of my computer to read the news every day, his website is at the top of my list and I know a lot of people who agree with me.
My wife and I used to go to his site for news.

Since he contracted a virulent case of TDS, we don't any more.

And I'm sure a lot of people agree with us as well.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by technovelist » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:00 pm

vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:07 pm
He was a "major influence"! I remember seeing this on his web site when it happened.

http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/this-d ... dal-92266/

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jacksonm2 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:00 pm
technovelist wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:35 pm


Drudge has been in the anti-Trump camp for quite awhile.

I don't think that means very much.
Time will tell but I thought it was very significant when he apparently decided to go full-in on the impeachment of Trump. Every day he highlights all of the most negative stories and links to none on the opposite side. A lot of people now credit him for being a major influence on the Clinton impeachment so the fact that he is now doing the same thing with Trump seems pretty significant to me. I think they call people like him on the internet nowadays "influencers".

When I sit down in front of my computer to read the news every day, his website is at the top of my list and I know a lot of people who agree with me.
There is quite a difference between the Clinton impeachment and a possible Trump impeachment.

Namely, there was overwhelming evidence that Clinton actually committed specific felonies.

By contrast, there is no evidence that Trump has done anything illegal, even after a three-year witch hunt.

So I don't consider these cases very similar.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by flyingpylon » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:43 am

Not sure if anyone’s noticed, but the flow of information on the internet has changed a bit since Drudge was a “major influence” TWENTY YEARS AGO.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by dualstow » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:27 am

flyingpylon wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:43 am
Not sure if anyone’s noticed, but the flow of information on the internet has changed a bit since Drudge was a “major influence” TWENTY YEARS AGO.
O0 In the 90s I used to rely heavily on refdesk dot com, run by Drudge's father. I wonder if he still runs it.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by jacksonm2 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:42 pm

flyingpylon wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:43 am
Not sure if anyone’s noticed, but the flow of information on the internet has changed a bit since Drudge was a “major influence” TWENTY YEARS AGO.
I may travel in too small of circles but almost everyone I talk to about politics who identifies as a conservative or right leaning libertarian still says "Of course" if I ask them if they read Drudge.

And I could be wrong but I noticed when he really started hitting the impeachment story hard there was a significant increase in the percentage of Republican voters who were in favor of impeachment.

There could be other reasons for that, of course, but that was my take on it.

If Rush Limbaugh turns, it's probably all over (never listened to him very much but as far as I know he's still a major influencer).
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by jacksonm2 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:52 pm

Damn if I don't like this woman more and more.....

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/ ... ian-asset/

I don't agree with all of her policy proposals but unlike the other DEM candidates she seems to still believe in the democratic process and isn't running for the office of socialist dictator (If you think that is an exaggeration then you haven't paid much attention to the debates).

So here is Hillary suggesting that Tulsi is a plant by the Russians to run as a third party candidate and guarantee the election to Donald Trump.

And we all know that what most Americans really want more than anything right now is a president willing to stand up to the Russians and even go to war if necessary. If Hillary thinks that is a winning strategy she is even more insane that I thought she was.

Come election night, in the unlikely event it would come down to a choice between Tulsi Gabbard and Donald Trump I would just go to bed early and wake up in the morning to see who won. Tulsi as president with Republicans in control of both houses of congress, or at least one, might very well be the ideal situation.

Not going to happen, of course but you never know. A lot of guys, myself as a war veteran included, would love to have someone like Tulsi Gabbard as their commander in chief in this age of toxic masculinity.

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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by vnatale » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:44 pm

Just a short while ago I'd written this elsewhere...

Tulsi Gabbard and Amy Klobuchar always strike me as constantly having the serious mien I like seeing in a presidential candidate. Elizabeth Warren does not have it.


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jacksonm2 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:52 pm
Damn if I don't like this woman more and more.....

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/ ... ian-asset/

I don't agree with all of her policy proposals but unlike the other DEM candidates she seems to still believe in the democratic process and isn't running for the office of socialist dictator (If you think that is an exaggeration then you haven't paid much attention to the debates).

So here is Hillary suggesting that Tulsi is a plant by the Russians to run as a third party candidate and guarantee the election to Donald Trump.

And we all know that what most Americans really want more than anything right now is a president willing to stand up to the Russians and even go to war if necessary. If Hillary thinks that is a winning strategy she is even more insane that I thought she was.

Come election night, in the unlikely event it would come down to a choice between Tulsi Gabbard and Donald Trump I would just go to bed early and wake up in the morning to see who won. Tulsi as president with Republicans in control of both houses of congress, or at least one, might very well be the ideal situation.

Not going to happen, of course but you never know. A lot of guys, myself as a war veteran included, would love to have someone like Tulsi Gabbard as their commander in chief in this age of toxic masculinity.

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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by jacksonm2 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:10 pm

I like Donald Trump because he has balls but I'm not yet convinced that he has big enough cojones to stand up to the generals and the military industrial complex and do what he campaigned on because he secretly knows his balls are inferior to theirs.

Tulsi is an Iraq war vet and medic who has seen blood and guts and has those medals on her chest to prove it so maybe she isn't afraid to stand up to the assholes who are really running this muti-trillion dollar, endless bloody show under the pretense of keeping america "safe".
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Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:44 pm
Just a short while ago I'd written this elsewhere...

Tulsi Gabbard and Amy Klobuchar always strike me as constantly having the serious mien I like seeing in a presidential candidate. Elizabeth Warren does not have it.


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jacksonm2 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:52 pm
Damn if I don't like this woman more and more.....

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/ ... ian-asset/

I don't agree with all of her policy proposals but unlike the other DEM candidates she seems to still believe in the democratic process and isn't running for the office of socialist dictator (If you think that is an exaggeration then you haven't paid much attention to the debates).

So here is Hillary suggesting that Tulsi is a plant by the Russians to run as a third party candidate and guarantee the election to Donald Trump.

And we all know that what most Americans really want more than anything right now is a president willing to stand up to the Russians and even go to war if necessary. If Hillary thinks that is a winning strategy she is even more insane that I thought she was.

Come election night, in the unlikely event it would come down to a choice between Tulsi Gabbard and Donald Trump I would just go to bed early and wake up in the morning to see who won. Tulsi as president with Republicans in control of both houses of congress, or at least one, might very well be the ideal situation.

Not going to happen, of course but you never know. A lot of guys, myself as a war veteran included, would love to have someone like Tulsi Gabbard as their commander in chief in this age of toxic masculinity.

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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by technovelist » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:27 pm

jacksonm2 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:42 pm
flyingpylon wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:43 am
Not sure if anyone’s noticed, but the flow of information on the internet has changed a bit since Drudge was a “major influence” TWENTY YEARS AGO.
I may travel in too small of circles but almost everyone I talk to about politics who identifies as a conservative or right leaning libertarian still says "Of course" if I ask them if they read Drudge.

And I could be wrong but I noticed when he really started hitting the impeachment story hard there was a significant increase in the percentage of Republican voters who were in favor of impeachment.

There could be other reasons for that, of course, but that was my take on it.

If Rush Limbaugh turns, it's probably all over (never listened to him very much but as far as I know he's still a major influencer).
Rush Limbaugh is 100% behind Trump, as is Mark Levin.

I don't think either of them were big Trump supporters before he was elected, but now they are all in.

Why? Because of the continuing absurd witch hunts against Trump.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by jacksonm2 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:09 pm

technovelist wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:27 pm
jacksonm2 wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:42 pm
flyingpylon wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:43 am
Not sure if anyone’s noticed, but the flow of information on the internet has changed a bit since Drudge was a “major influence” TWENTY YEARS AGO.
I may travel in too small of circles but almost everyone I talk to about politics who identifies as a conservative or right leaning libertarian still says "Of course" if I ask them if they read Drudge.

And I could be wrong but I noticed when he really started hitting the impeachment story hard there was a significant increase in the percentage of Republican voters who were in favor of impeachment.

There could be other reasons for that, of course, but that was my take on it.

If Rush Limbaugh turns, it's probably all over (never listened to him very much but as far as I know he's still a major influencer).
Rush Limbaugh is 100% behind Trump, as is Mark Levin.

I don't think either of them were big Trump supporters before he was elected, but now they are all in.

Why? Because of the continuing absurd witch hunts against Trump.
I always liked a lot of what Limbaugh and Levin had to say when I listened but both of them had too much neocon warmongering at times when that was the Republican thing and this eventually caused me to turn them off. Not sure how either of them feels about that part of Trumpism today.

Same thing with Thomas Sowell.

I still see Levin on Fox sometimes and he always impresses me as someone who knows how to hit the nail squarely on the head about a lot of things.

I think my favorite nowadays is Laura Ingraham.
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