Mountaineer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:43 am
Getting back to the thread title, I came across this little diddy and thought some of you might find it enjoyable, funny, disgusting, or a bunch of crap. Pick your own descriptor.
Hmm, I have relatives who share a similar sentiment with regard to the raccoon remover, if even I recognize this as the racist Infowars rant.
EDIT: So I don’t derail with follow up posts, I’ll add that I don’t think Hasids should have special rights, either. No separate swimming pool hours by gender, etc. There was a great 1990s article in the LA Times about friction in a famous neighborhood where loads of Orthodox had moved in. One of their shenanigans was walking in the middle of the street at night so as to not activate burglar sensor lights (= lighting a “fire” = work) on the Sabbath. Among the forefront of complainants about the influx: secular Jews. Good stuff.
Still, I don’t know if a hateful guy like Trump who stirs up the worst in people, and the worst people, is necessary to decide that Muslim women cannot have exclusive rights to a public pool one day out of the year. We can achieve that with swampy, non-hateful representatives.
Interesting, I did not realize that came from Infowars or I probably would not have posted it. However, those racoons are pesky! Do racoons live in a swamp with the alligators, water moccasins, and wine country moguls who live behind walls?
Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no help. Psalm 146:3
Mountaineer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:52 am
Interesting, I did not realize that came from Infowars or I probably would not have posted it. However, those racoons are pesky! Do racoons live in a swamp with the alligators, water moccasins, and wine country moguls who live behind walls?
If you liked the story, who cares where it came from? Baby, bathwater, and such.
Mountaineer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:52 am
Interesting, I did not realize that came from Infowars or I probably would not have posted it. However, those racoons are pesky! Do racoons live in a swamp with the alligators, water moccasins, and wine country moguls who live behind walls?
If you liked the story, who cares where it came from? Baby, bathwater, and such.
I've been pondering your comment and came to the conclusion you are correct. It is much better to evaluate material based on the content rather than the speaker or writer of the content. Facts over emotion. Substance over style. And last but not least, Trump's accomplishments vs. Trump.
Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no help. Psalm 146:3
Continuing in that vein, and since this thread is about Trump, I read in someone's post above that Trump is hateful.
Could someone please list one or more actions that Trump has taken as president that demonstrate his hatefulness?
I realize that words can be considered as actions, especially if they are meant to incite action by someone else. But for the purposes of this exercise, I would prefer examples that are not just words but are actual action-actions (mainly because I don't trust that the words as reported to the public by the media have not been twisted).
I think you’re asking for too much. Offhand, I can’t even supply evidence of David Duke, let alone Trump, being hateful if you want actions. Only words.
Abd here you stand no taller than the grass sees
And should you really chase so hard /The truth of sport plays rings around you
Well then I remain unconvinced that he is in fact hateful. I think he's just a guy who likes money and power, like most politicians. I don't think he's motivated one way or another by race. The media is always trying to paint him as the next Hitler, hateful of Jews, blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, etc. For Pete sake, the husband of his favorite daughter is a Jew -- actually she is too I believe, having converted for her husband.
Yeah, he wants to build a border wall and have a stronger no-fly list against potential Muslim terrorists. The media paints that as hateful. I think he does it because he thinks it's a good way to protect his own people, which is supposed to be his job after all. Of course, it also gets him votes from like-minded people, but isn't that how democracy is supposed to work?
stuper1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:48 pm
Well then I remain unconvinced that he is in fact hateful. I think he's just a guy who likes money and power, like most politicians. I don't think he's motivated one way or another by race. The media is always trying to paint him as the next Hitler, hateful of Jews, blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, etc. For Pete sake, the husband of his favorite daughter is a Jew -- actually she is too I believe, having converted for her husband.
Yeah, he wants to build a border wall and have a stronger no-fly list against potential Muslim terrorists. The media paints that as hateful. I think he does it because he thinks it's a good way to protect his own people, which is supposed to be his job after all. Of course, it also gets him votes from like-minded people, but isn't that how democracy is supposed to work?
I really don't see the hate.
TDS is a terrible scourge.
Hopefully science will find a cure someday.
Nearly every science agency stands to get more money under a spending bill that avoids proposed cuts from the White House. -The Atlantic
Trump Budget Gives Last-Minute Reprieve to Science Funding
Funding for the National Science Foundation and National Institutes of Health would hold steady after Congress agrees to lift spending caps, but details are fuzzy
- Scientific American
And so on. Bottom line: science will get funding in spite of Trump.
A cure for TDS, though? Not a high priority. :-)
Abd here you stand no taller than the grass sees
And should you really chase so hard /The truth of sport plays rings around you
This story says Trump is considering a military option in Venezuela but I'm hoping he's just trying humor Lindsey Graham who would probably be very much in favor. If there is a military option I'll be quickly switching from being a lukewarm Trump supporter to the "impeach the mother*****" side of the aisle.
jacksonM wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:15 am
This story says Trump is considering a military option in Venezuela but I'm hoping he's just trying humor Lindsey Graham who would probably be very much in favor. If there is a military option I'll be quickly switching from being a lukewarm Trump supporter to the "impeach the mother*****" side of the aisle.
hey now- that is NOT going to happen. All the Trump supporters here are antiwar and I admire that. I say that with zero flippancy or snarkiness. There are arguments for and against pulling out of Afghanistan, blah blah, but Trump is not going to launch any new invasions. No sir.
Abd here you stand no taller than the grass sees
And should you really chase so hard /The truth of sport plays rings around you
jacksonM wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:15 am
This story says Trump is considering a military option in Venezuela but I'm hoping he's just trying humor Lindsey Graham who would probably be very much in favor. If there is a military option I'll be quickly switching from being a lukewarm Trump supporter to the "impeach the mother*****" side of the aisle.
Well the article does say (in bold and more than once) that there are no signs that Trump is moving in the direction of military intervention. And to the author's credit, it doesn't even start off with "Sources say...".
So maybe the real question is: why get yourself all worked up about it?
jacksonM wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:15 am
This story says Trump is considering a military option in Venezuela but I'm hoping he's just trying humor Lindsey Graham who would probably be very much in favor. If there is a military option I'll be quickly switching from being a lukewarm Trump supporter to the "impeach the mother*****" side of the aisle.
Well the article does say (in bold and more than once) that there are no signs that Trump is moving in the direction of military intervention. And to the author's credit, it doesn't even start off with "Sources say...".
So maybe the real question is: why get yourself all worked up about it?
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:27 pm
Tangentially related, before he became the Stoic philosophy author/guru, Ryan Holiday wrote Trust Me, I'm Lying, about how the media is manipulated, how to spot it, etc. One tactic used is getting a story play at a bottom-feeding blog/outlet with no journalistic integrity, which then gets picked up by bigger outlets who cite the original source. That's a big reason news organizations loooooooooooove Twitter and other social media. Or just emailing news organizations/using their anonymous tips button and lying to them directly. They're pressured to get stories out immediately, so they can't fact check them. They put them out, and then (maybe) put out retractions or modify them afterwards, but "there are no consequences for being wrong" as he says.
Tim Pool was just on Joe Rogan's podcast and he gave a funny example, where his brother made up a fake story (about weed) and spoofed a news site and put it up. High Times picked it up and it got 50,000 shares. "When they corrected the article, saying it was a hoax, they said 'we wanted to call for verification, but thought the story was too hot to pass up.'"
"We will have a national emergency, and we will then be sued, and they will sue us in the 9th Circuit, even though it shouldn't be there, and we will possibly get a bad ruling, and then we'll get another bad ruling, and then we'll end up in the Supreme Court, and hopefully we'll get a fair shake and we'll win in the Supreme Court."
I thought: God damn. The president of the United States is up there like a valley girl.
He is so contradictory in virtually every sentence he utters it is mind boggling.
"No, no, I use many stats. I use many stats."
Pretty sure he would never make it as an engineer or any kind of analyst.
Among the forefront of complainants about the influx: secular Jews. Good stuff.
