Long bonds have been doing fine, haven't they?buddtholomew wrote:Gold hanging in there, treasuries are a bust with equities declining.
The GOLD scream room
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Abd here you stand no taller than the grass sees
And should you really chase so hard /The truth of sport plays rings around you
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Yeah my comment was before an auction this morning where treasuries were a little subdued even with almost a 1% decline in the S&P. Rallied late in the day just fine.
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It is all so predictable. Latest threat from N. Korea is "over." Run the slam gold algorithm...
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Makes me sick to ever have found this portfolio.
That was raw emotion this morning after 14 hours of migrating our enterprise reporting environment to AWS.
Such crap...same for treasuries.Cortopassi wrote:It is all so predictable. Latest threat from N. Korea is "over." Run the slam gold algorithm...
Makes me sick to ever have found this portfolio.
That was raw emotion this morning after 14 hours of migrating our enterprise reporting environment to AWS.
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Right? I'm the dumbest smart person I know.buddtholomew wrote:Makes me sick to ever have found this portfolio.
Don't agree with me too strongly or I'm going to change my mind
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I challenge you to find someone dumber than me.
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Right here, buddybuddtholomew wrote:I challenge you to find someone dumber than me.

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Takes bow and exists stage right...
Leave on a good note...
Reminds me next time to take profits in Gold and Treasuries when they arise.
I considered it this go-around but the $ amounts aren't large enough to warrant trading (e.g. remove 100K to cash from 500K Gold holding and it moves down 10%, your 100K lost 0K but your 400K lost 40K. You end up savings yourself 10K/500K or a 2% loss but you still lost 40K or 8% of total, incl. cash.). Just doesn't seem worthwhile.
Leave on a good note...
Reminds me next time to take profits in Gold and Treasuries when they arise.
I considered it this go-around but the $ amounts aren't large enough to warrant trading (e.g. remove 100K to cash from 500K Gold holding and it moves down 10%, your 100K lost 0K but your 400K lost 40K. You end up savings yourself 10K/500K or a 2% loss but you still lost 40K or 8% of total, incl. cash.). Just doesn't seem worthwhile.
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Except for a few hours during the Brexit vote, my gold holdings have been in the red since 2013...buddtholomew wrote:Reminds me next time to take profits in Gold

Sure would like to see it go above and stay above $1350 in my lifetime again...
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I doubt other portfolios would be less maddening overall, but gold is the worst asset to watch. My backtest spreadsheet shows 52% positive months between January 1971 and April 2016. Back and forth, back and forth. And, yes, budd, it really stinks when gold and bonds are tracking together.
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2011 for me. Fires in Birmingham, UK.Cortopassi wrote:
Except for a few hours during the Brexit vote, my gold holdings have been in the red since 2013...![]()
But hey, Libertarian666 was virtually all gold and doing ok.
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And the rise is now attributed to Trump disbanding the CEO group, at least on a couple sites. Sure. Ok. I'll take it anyway.
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What rise- oh. Cool.
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I'd say cha-ching, but I'm too negative.
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Why do some of those cheesy gold ads on tv say they're selling gold "at cost" ?
Isn't that false advertising?
Isn't that false advertising?
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DS, no posting in this chat unless Gold is +/- 2%.
I'm running out of my heart medication
I'm running out of my heart medication

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buddtholomew wrote:DS, no posting in this chat unless Gold is +/- 2%.
I'm running out of my heart medication

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If you know that watching the price of gold can be bad for your heart and you also know that you have no control over the price of gold, then I have to ask why do you even do it?dualstow wrote:buddtholomew wrote:DS, no posting in this chat unless Gold is +/- 2%.
I'm running out of my heart medicationapologies
Not trying to mock. Just asking a serious question.
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Damn good question. Because it is hard earned money, and by golly gold is only supposed to ever go up! 

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Well as long is this thread is officially open this afternoon without the 2% price jump, does anyone know the answer to the question above?dualstow wrote:Why do some of those cheesy gold ads on tv say they're selling gold "at cost" ?
Isn't that false advertising?
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"At cost" seems pretty nebulous. "Spot price" would be more concrete.
What is their "cost?"
Does their "cost" include advertising, salaries, storage, shipping, insurance, etc. I bet all those are built into the price ("cost")/ -- but I haven't seen any ads.
What is their "cost?"
Does their "cost" include advertising, salaries, storage, shipping, insurance, etc. I bet all those are built into the price ("cost")/ -- but I haven't seen any ads.
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah, it's weird. I mean obviously they're not running a charity, and I wonder what goes through the mind of the senior citizens who are being targeted by these ads. The one I saw this morning said a coin was US$129. Must be 1/10 of an ounce. And, once you get on the phone, there are probably multiple fees.
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I feel the same way about fantasy football.farjean2 wrote:If you know that watching the price of gold can be bad for your heart and you also know that you have no control over the price of gold, then I have to ask why do you even do it?dualstow wrote:buddtholomew wrote:DS, no posting in this chat unless Gold is +/- 2%.
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Is there a word for when your bond gains and gold losses match up? I'm rapidly approaching that pleasant situation for the first time in a long time. It's like planets aligning.
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Today is the first day I've ever been a truly proud gold owner...
Don't agree with me too strongly or I'm going to change my mind