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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by MachineGhost » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:40 pm

At least the oral probiotic did something, although I was brushing only once a day more often also.

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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by Reub » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:51 am

MachineGhost wrote:
Reub wrote:So are all of you going to lace on your running shoes right now?
I "ski" in place for 20 minutes a day, 5x a week to target the optimal mortality reduction. I'm a fan of MEMR: minimum effort, maximum results.

If you don't like running, you can do the HIIT: 2 minutes slow, 30 seconds all out, repeat three times, for a total of 10 minutes a day. I posted that study somehwere else.
Do you use a Nordic Track for the skiing? I used to have one before it got destroyed in Hurricane Sandy.
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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by Benko » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:01 pm

MG,

How does one get a "gut analysis" done i.e. what company do you use and what is the test called?


FYI: I owe you and Reub (I think) thanks as I've healed my gut quite a bit thanks partly to the partially hydrolyzed guar gum that perhaps it was Reub and you recommended.

The other happy accidental discovery which has helped heal my gut quite a bit is called amla*. I take a teaspoon per day in my smoothie. Indian (as in Ayurvedic medicine) herb which I happen to try for another reason. Turns out it decreases gut inflammation. Taking the hydrolyzed guar gum and amla helped a friend who had "gut issues" as well.


*amla is one of the 3 herbs in triphala, but I could never take triphala itself because of the cramps it gave me.
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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by MachineGhost » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:34 pm

Reub wrote:Do you use a Nordic Track for the skiing? I used to have one before it got destroyed in Hurricane Sandy.
No I just free form on a rebounder (mini trampoline) while watching Netflix. I do have one of those walker machines but it wasn't in a room with a TV until recently. It's easy to do HIIT on that. I want more variety so I'll probably throw that in soon. Depends if I can handle the stress or not. I'm so pooped out after weight lifting these days and defintely takes all week to recover.
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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by MachineGhost » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:37 pm

Benko wrote:How does one get a "gut analysis" done i.e. what company do you use and what is the test called?
You can get a FREE $89 gut microbiome analysis from uBiome using the promo code on this page: http://ubiome.com/pages/personality

Alternatively, you can join their mailing list and wait for a 5-sites-for-1 deal for $89. I've received two (now three) kits for free and have only paid for two 5-for-1's.

I'll post the gut repair fiber cocktail I've been using soon. I guess going from 16th to 30th in diversity isn't nothing to sneeze at at just 5g a day (but it annoyingly makes me drowsy and crash-prone afterwards so only can take it near bedtime). My real aggravation is why I still have no lactic acid bateria despite taking a ridiculous array of expensive probiotics over the past year (PrescriptAssist, Ortho-3, Elixa, etc.), including a spore-forming lactic acid bacteria that definitely survives stomach acid. I thought maybe it was a bad sample and assay the first time, but nope! This shit be pissing me off.
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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by MachineGhost » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:09 am

Here is the recipe for the prebiotic gut repair fiber mix that I've been taking:

60g Psyllium Husk Powder (Short Chain Fatty Acids)
https://www.pureformulas.com/psyllium-h ... y-now.html
33g Modified Citrus Pectin Powder
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson ... grams-pwdr
33g Inulin Powder (FructoOligoSaccharides)
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson ... grams-pwdr
30g Larch Tree Powder (ArabinoGalactans)
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson ... -8-oz-pwdr
27g Glucomannan Powder
https://www.pureformulas.com/glucomanna ... y-now.html
27g Baby's Jarro-Dolphilus + FOS (GalactoOligoSaccharides)
https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulati ... 0013OSHDY/
14g Acacia Fiber Powder
https://www.pureformulas.com/acacia-fib ... y-now.html

They all specialize in promoting the growth of less common, but pro-health microbiota species (I have 3 very elusive now compared to just 1 before). I'm doubling my daily dose to two 5g scoops now. I'm also going to give probiotics one more shot and try the Life Extension dual encapsulated intestinal-wall sticking FlorAssist Balance Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium which gets rave reviews -- especially from people who have tried a lot of other probiotics like I have -- before giving up completely. Prebiotics are far more important than prebiotics as prebiotics is the food; probiotics is just the seed.

I don't know what Modified Citrus Pectin is supposed to promote in the gut, but it is normally used to eradicate cancer cells inside the body since it is specially processed to be absorbed into the bloodstream unlike normal pectin.

Ubiome suggests ingesting OligoFructose to promote Akkermansia genus of which I have exactly 0% -- it feeds on the mucin secreted by the gut walls and one species is associated with obesity, inflammation and diabetes (see below). I also know Baobao fruit powder promotes Lactobacillus rhamnosus which has an impressive resume (I think I too took it as a single probiotic to no apparant result).
Obesity and type 2 diabetes are characterized by altered gut microbiota, inflammation, and gut barrier disruption. Microbial composition and the mechanisms of interaction with the host that affect gut barrier function during obesity and type 2 diabetes have not been elucidated. We recently isolated Akkermansia muciniphila, which is a mucin-degrading bacterium that resides in the mucus layer. The presence of this bacterium inversely correlates with body weight in rodents and humans. However, the precise physiological roles played by this bacterium during obesity and metabolic disorders are unknown. This study demonstrated that the abundance of A. muciniphila decreased in obese and type 2 diabetic mice. We also observed that prebiotic feeding normalized A. muciniphila abundance, which correlated with an improved metabolic profile. In addition, we demonstrated that A. muciniphila treatment reversed high-fat diet-induced metabolic disorders, including fat-mass gain, metabolic endotoxemia, adipose tissue inflammation, and insulin resistance. A. muciniphila administration increased the intestinal levels of endocannabinoids that control inflammation, the gut barrier, and gut peptide secretion. Finally, we demonstrated that all these effects required viable A. muciniphila because treatment with heat-killed cells did not improve the metabolic profile or the mucus layer thickness. In summary, this study provides substantial insight into the intricate mechanisms of bacterial (i.e., A. muciniphila) regulation of the cross-talk between the host and gut microbiota. These results also provide a rationale for the development of a treatment that uses this human mucus colonizer for the prevention or treatment of obesity and its associated metabolic disorders.

http://www.pnas.org/content/110/22/9066.long
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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by MachineGhost » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:23 pm

What the heck are they eating in Greece?

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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by MachineGhost » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:39 pm

Best of the best. The rest of the analyzers only look at less than 100 SNP's.
SelfDecode has 6400 SNPs from the new 23andme chip and 700 SNPs with custom made content (and counting).

SelfDecode can analyze ~8700 SNPs in total (but the new 23andme chip only has 6400).
https://www.selfdecode.com/
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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by Reub » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:34 pm

MachineGhost wrote:Best of the best. The rest of the analyzers only look at less than 100 SNP's.
SelfDecode has 6400 SNPs from the new 23andme chip and 700 SNPs with custom made content (and counting).

SelfDecode can analyze ~8700 SNPs in total (but the new 23andme chip only has 6400).
https://www.selfdecode.com/
$19/month. Blimey!
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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by MachineGhost » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:51 am

Just use it for up to one month then cancel.

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Re: All Things Permanent Health

Post by MachineGhost » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:17 pm

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Post by Mountaineer » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:45 pm

So, what is the bottom line of this picture and related hundreds (thousands?) of words in the link? What do I do with this information?
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