Obama's True March Madness

[Reub]

While Obama pretends to be one of the people with his March Madness brackets, his true March Madness is on display. As he unsuccessfully attempts to unseat a sitting Israeli Prime Minister using laundered American funds he simultaneously cozies up to the mullahs in Iran, guaranteeing them nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles within a decade. And to top it off he is scheming to take his agreement to the UN to bypass the duly elected Congress.

Now that's true March Madness!

[MachineGhost]

Don't forget the mandatory voting!!!

[Libertarian666]

Don't forget the mandatory voting!!!

How is it a 'free' country if they force you to vote? Oh, wait, they also force you to pay taxes. 

It is a 'free' country because you are free to do whatever they mandate. It only becomes non-free if you fail to follow that simple rule.

[Reub]

Obama must be totally insane. He just sent a videotaped message to the Iranian people  as if they have the right to hear, think and decide for themselves.  All he was doing was legitimizing the murderous mullahs in Tehran who are playing him like a fool while they move ever closer to nukes with ICBMs and expand their influence  throughout the world.

[Libertarian666]

Obama must be totally insane. He just sent a videotaped message to the Iranian people  as if they have the right to hear, think and decide for themselves.  All he was doing was legitimizing the murderous mullahs in Tehran who are playing him like a fool while they move ever closer to nukes with ICBMs and expand their influence  throughout the world.

Yes, we wouldn't want any country with ICBMs and nukes, especially if they have already used nukes against civilians!
Oh, wait...

[clacy]

What an unbelievable hissy fit he is throwing because Bibi was re-elected.

Sad really. 

Bows to the Saudi King, throws support behind the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, but then throws the biggest geo-political temper-tantrum that I can recall when the Israelis re-elect their PM. 

[Mountaineer]

Obama must be totally insane. He just sent a videotaped message to the Iranian people  as if they have the right to hear, think and decide for themselves.  All he was doing was legitimizing the murderous mullahs in Tehran who are playing him like a fool while they move ever closer to nukes with ICBMs and expand their influence  throughout the world.

Yes, we wouldn't want any country with ICBMs and nukes, especially if they have already used nukes against civilians!
Oh, wait...

tech,

I really don't think you mean because the US used nukes to (in most views) save a lot of lives, US and Japanese, that it is permissible for everyone to have nukes.  If we follow that line of thought to conclusion - everyone who does something some others in hindsight think is bad so whatever was done is OK for everyone now to do - there will be zero life left on the planet.  But, that is how your response sounded to me.

... Mountaineer

[Reub]

Tech, so have you moved to Uruguay yet? They haven't nuked anyone recently.

[Reub]

clacy, can you imagine the tantrum that Obama had the night Bibi won in a landslide? And this was after funneling taxpayer money to get out the Arab vote there and who knows what else? Yes, Israel is one of the few places where Arabs are allowed to participate in democratic elections.

[MachineGhost]

Bows to the Saudi King, throws support behind the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, but then throws the biggest geo-political temper-tantrum that I can recall when the Israelis re-elect their PM.

I just can't keep up with all the boob news.  What exactly did Der Leader do now?

P.S.  And whodafunk is "Bibi"?

[MachineGhost]

Bibi is Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's nickname.

So what happened, did Bibi do something Der Leader didn't approve of?

[MachineGhost]

Bibi is Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's nickname.

So what happened, did Bibi do something Der Leader didn't approve of?

Der leader has never approved of Bibi, (and maybe never approved of Israel as well) so he spent american tax payer money, built a get out the Arab vote movement, and sent election operatives to influence the election.. and was trounced in a Bibi election land slide for his efforts (and our dollars).. he then accused Bibi of being a racist when Bibi publicly mentioned the get out the vote thing obummer had been up to...

Are you serious???  This better be a scandal for impeachment!

i doubt its impeachable... even if he was a white guy, and you weren't automatically a racist for even thinking the idea since he isn't..

[MachineGhost]

i doubt its impeachable... even if he was a white guy, and you weren't automatically a racist for even thinking the idea since he isn't.. 

He's using taxpayer money to influence foreign elections and he gets off?  Man, sticking a cigar up someone's vagina got a certain President in more trouble and that's pretty tame in comparison.

yep.... impeachments a bitch.... the political capital and legal requirements to impeach in the modern world seem to make it a "no go" for things that in another time would have been political suicide, if not completely unheard of, just because nobody would even dare to think they could get away with it....

[MachineGhost]

Looks like Der Leader has gobs of money now and need not worry about the little people anymore. <spit>  There is just something wrong about using politics to become a multi-millionaire.  We need effective free market solutions to nullify these parasites.

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]News reports indicate that President Barack Obama may have just purchased a beachfront home in Hawaii. But isn’t he worried about sea level rise from global warming?

Hawaii’s KTV4 News reports that a man connected to Obama purchased the multi-million dollar beachfront home featured in the show “Magnum P.I.”? — the property was then sold to a limited liability corporation in Colorado. But if the House was bought on the president’s behalf, isn’t he worried that rising sea levels will harm his new real estate?[/quote]

[MachineGhost]

And finally (and it really sucks that I have to make this explicit), please do not equate my pointing out the intellectual dishonesty of ODS sufferers with any blanket approval of any Obama administration policies.

What is ODS?

[MachineGhost]

Obama Derangement Syndrome

Well, you've got to admit Carter looked like a warrior in comparison.

[Libertarian666]

Obama must be totally insane. He just sent a videotaped message to the Iranian people  as if they have the right to hear, think and decide for themselves.  All he was doing was legitimizing the murderous mullahs in Tehran who are playing him like a fool while they move ever closer to nukes with ICBMs and expand their influence  throughout the world.

Yes, we wouldn't want any country with ICBMs and nukes, especially if they have already used nukes against civilians!
Oh, wait...

tech,

I really don't think you mean because the US used nukes to (in most views) save a lot of lives, US and Japanese, that it is permissible for everyone to have nukes.  If we follow that line of thought to conclusion - everyone who does something some others in hindsight think is bad so whatever was done is OK for everyone now to do - there will be zero life left on the planet.  But, that is how your response sounded to me.

... Mountaineer

Yes, I do mean exactly that the one country that has used nukes in war has no business telling any other country what they can and cannot have in that department. Sorry if that offends you somehow.

By the way, what do all countries with nukes have in common? That they haven't been invaded by the US. Maybe that's just a coincidence though...

[Libertarian666]

Tech, so have you moved to Uruguay yet? They haven't nuked anyone recently.

Not yet. However, if Hillary is elected President, that will put my relocation plans into high gear.

[Pointedstick]

I agree with techno on this. The USA's behavior increases the desirability of acquiring nuclear weapons by other nations; once they have them, it's pretty clear they we won't invade them. The only problem is doing it on the down-low, which is when we're most belligerent towards them. Secretly acquiring nukes and then announcing it to the world seems to be a no-lose proposition. Nuclear non-proliferation is just international gun control.

[Mountaineer]

I agree with techno on this. The USA's behavior increases the desirability of acquiring nuclear weapons by other nations; once they have them, it's pretty clear they we won't invade them. The only problem is doing it on the down-low, which is when we're most belligerent towards them. Secretly acquiring nukes and then announcing it to the world seems to be a no-lose proposition. Nuclear non-proliferation is just international gun control.

I appreciate the perspective, and much of what you say would seem to make sense in a rational world; however, I must say that since gun control does not work ... why do you think it will it be different if every Tom, Dick, and Harry has nukes?  Emphasis on the Dicks.  If everyone had guns with no carry restrictions, I think overall crime would be reduced but not take it to zero.  A few crazies popping off their M4s creates only a little havock.  A few crazies popping of a couple of nukes is not quite the same.  I do not think the MAD strategy is one that will work long term.  Hence, my comment about the end of life on planet Earth as I do not believe in the inherrent goodness of man but do believe in our inherrent badness.  But then again, God did say we will be destroyed by fire.  Maybe you guys want to hurry things along. 

... Mountaineer

[MachineGhost]

Comparing gun control to nuclear proliferation control is silly.  Gun control doesn't "work" because guns are for the relatively decentralized and stupid who want to have explicit aiming; nuclear weapons are a very high tech, highly skilled endeavor requiring many specialized components that are easily controlled and monitored.  The costs are extremely high and the result of use is a very messy and imprecise mass obliteration.  Which is why nuclear nonproliferation has been a relative success compared to gun control.  To give up on that because "it doesn't work" would all but guarantee the CRIFF's will wipe us out with it.

[Pointedstick]

A few crazies popping off their M4s creates only a little havock.  A few crazies popping of a couple of nukes is not quite the same.  I do not think the MAD strategy is one that will work long term.

I do. MAD works when applied to entities that have self-preservation. That's why governments generally don't actually use their nukes. This is a different proposition when you imagine crazy muslim terrorists with nukes, since they have no sense of self-preservation and actually want an apocalypse. But they lack the technical ability to build nukes. That would have to steal them (unlikely) or get them secretly from a friendly government.

But what government would possibly give nukes to terrorists? It would be suicide. If the terrorists nuked anywhere, this secret transaction would eventually come out and the government that provided the weapons would be completely wiped out. Imagine what would happen if we knew Iran had nukes and a year later Hezbollah nuked Tel Aviv. Where would the finger be pointed? Right at Iran. We know this. And Iran knows this too. That's why they won't give nukes to their terrorist allies: because they have a sense of self-preservation. They know it would be the end of them.

[Mountaineer]

A few crazies popping off their M4s creates only a little havock.  A few crazies popping of a couple of nukes is not quite the same.  I do not think the MAD strategy is one that will work long term.

I do. MAD works when applied to entities that have self-preservation. That's why governments generally don't actually use their nukes. This is a different proposition when you imagine crazy muslim terrorists with nukes, since they have no sense of self-preservation and actually want an apocalypse. But they lack the technical ability to build nukes. That would have to steal them (unlikely) or get them secretly from a friendly government.

But what government would possibly give nukes to terrorists? It would be suicide. If the terrorists nuked anywhere, this secret transaction would eventually come out and the government that provided the weapons would be completely wiped out. Imagine what would happen if we knew Iran had nukes and a year later Hezbollah nuked Tel Aviv. Where would the finger be pointed? Right at Iran. We know this. And Iran knows this too. That's why they won't give nukes to their terrorist allies: because they have a sense of self-preservation. They know it would be the end of them.

PS and tech, I sincerely hope you are correct and not me.  It is a very high stakes game where the winners and losers and non-players will all lose if you are not correct.  And, as I said, I do not have faith that out of our 8 billion people, all will be rational, or all will be unlucky in their devious creativity to somehow get their hands on some nukes for nefarious purposes.  When I graduated from the university, an IBM 360 computer was room sized (very difficult to steal) and now that computing capability is iWatch sized (not quite so secure).  I have absolutely no idea if nukes will become that easy to make, store, or steal, (I would not think so based on our understanding of atomic physics and engineering) but why promote the process?  I do know that Gadget (the first nuke) was quite a bit larger and less portable than the current versions.  I never thought computers would become advanced as quickly as they have either and a couple of hundred years ago I doubt anyone gave thought to todays rockets, automobiles, medical capability, or LED light bulbs.

... Mountaineer

[MachineGhost]

In honor of Reub's absence, I am "pulling a Reub" and posting this:

[quote=http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2 ... isis-rages]President Barack Obama has yet to meet with the new head of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and won't see Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg this week, even though he is in Washington for three days.  Stoltenberg’s office requested a meeting with Obama well in advance of the visit, but never heard anything from the White House, two sources close to the NATO chief told me.
[/quote]

I don't know what Obama's problem is, but he's increasingly turning into a lame duck dickhead.