Should the US be prepared to go to war over Eastern Europe?

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Should the US be prepared to go to war over Eastern Europe?

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"I say to the people of Estonia and the people of the Baltics, today we are bound by our treaty alliance. ... Article 5 is crystal clear: An attack on one is an attack on all. So if ... you ever ask again, 'who'll come to help,' you'll know the answer -- the NATO alliance, including the armed forces of the United States of America."

That was Barack Obama in Tallinn, Estonia, last week, reissuing a U.S. war guarantee to the tiniest of the Baltic republics -- which his Cold War predecessors would have regarded as certifiable madness.

From 1945 to 1989, no president would have dreamed of issuing a blank check for war in Eastern Europe. Our red line was in the heart of Germany. It said to Moscow: Cross the Elbe, and we fight.

That red line was made credible by hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops permanently stationed in West Germany.

Yet Truman did not use force to break the Berlin Blockade. Ike did not use force to save the Hungarian rebels. JFK fulminated, and observed, when the Wall went up. When Leonid Brezhnev sent Warsaw Pact armies into Czechoslovakia, LBJ did nothing.

Why did these presidents not act? None believed there was any vital U.S. interest in Eastern Europe worth a war with Russia.

And, truth be told, there was no vital interest there then, and there is no vital interest there now. If we would not risk war with a nuclear-armed Russia over Hungary or Czechoslovakia half a century ago, why would we risk it now over Estonia?
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[quote=The Article]In 1994, George Kennan called the expansion of NATO into the old Soviet bloc "a strategic blunder of potentially epic proportions."

Yet we not only brought into NATO all the Warsaw Pact nations, George W. Bush brought in the Baltic republics.[/quote]
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Agreed, TennPaGa.

It seems like NATO pretty much admitted anyone who wanted to join. I believe there are a number of member countries that the alliance wouldn't defend if they were seriously threatened by the Russians. I would probably put all the new members since 2004 in that category. They are Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania & Croatia. What, there are Russian tanks in Plovdiv? Mon Dieu!
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