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Standards for admission to various private (the British would say public) schools...
Eton: There are seventy scholars always on the Foundation; and the average number of yearly vacancies is about twelve. Election to these takes place annually on the last Monday in July. Candidates must be between the ages of twelve and fifteen, and for permission to compete application must be made to “The Clerk of the Governing Body, Eton College, Windsor.”? The subjects of examination are Latin Composition (Prose and Verse); Translation from Latin and Greek; Mathematics (including Arithmetic, Algebra, and Euclid); and ”? General Papers ”? (whatever these may mean), not limited to Latin and Greek Grammar and Parsing. The examination varies according to the age of the candidate, who is permitted the use of Dictionary, Gradus, Greek Lexicon, and Grammars on the Composition and Translation papers...

...The Examinations

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EXAMINATION PAPERS SET TO BOYS BETWEEN 12 AND 16 YEARS OF AGE, CANDIDATES FOR ELECTION TO THE FOUNDATION OF WINCHESTER COLLEGE, JULY, 1882.

ARITHMETIC
I. Find the G.C.M. of 5325 and 8307; the L.C.M. of 34, 68, 17, 2.

II. Find the value of–
1. 3.4 and 4/3 of 3
2. 1/2+3/4+5/8+7/9
3. 5-25/7
4. 16 2/3 divided by 12 1/2
5. 9 7/9 divided by 2 1/27

III. Find the value of–
1. .0003 x .01 x 500000
2. 9.065 divided by .049
3. .001953125 of £40

IV. Work out by Practice the rent of 2A. 3R. 25P. a £5 7s. 5 1/2d. per acre

V. A man owes £360 16s. 3d., and can only pay £240 15s. 6d.; how much is this in the pound?

VI. A rectangular piece of ground of 780 square feet area was sold for £25,050; the cost was said to be £1,565 10s. for each foot facing the street: how many feet frontage were there? At the same rate how much would the land cost per acre?

Show that a square plot one acre in extent measures nearly 69 1/2 yards each way.

VII. A man has an income of £558 2s. 6d. after paying 5d. in the £ for tax: what was the original income? If the income arises from 3 per cents, at £95, what is the value of his estate?

VIII. Find the difference between simple and compound interest on £2,784 15s. for three years at 4 per cent.

IX. A mixture contains 1 pound of A, 24 1/2 pounds of B, 2 pounds of C, 12 1/2 pounds of D: find how much per cent, there is of each.

X. A man in discounting a bill due three years hence, at the rate of 5 per cent., found the true discount on one year, and multiplied it by 3: by what fraction of the whole bill was he wrong?

ALGEBRA AND GEOMETRY.

I. Find the G.C.M. and L.C.M. of 6x^3-11x^2+5x-3, and 9x^3-9x^2+5x-2; leave the latter in factors

Multiply x^2/3+3x^1/3-1 by x^2/3-3x^1/3+1

II. Solve the equations:–

1. x^2+ 1/x^2+x+1/x=4

2. square root of 1+x/ 1+ square rood of 1+x = square root of 1-x/ 1- square root of 1-x

3. xyz=231
xyw=420
yzw=1540
xzw=660

III. Show how to sum a geometrical series to n terms

Prove that .637=631/990

IV. If a:b::c:d, show a^3+b^3: a^3-b^3::c^3+d^3: c^3-d^3

Write down the 11th term of (a-b/2)^17

V. The pth term of an arithmetic series is u, the qth term of the same is v; find the 7th term.

VI. If two angles of a triangle are equal to one another, the sides also which subtend, or are opposite to, the equal angles, shall be equal to one another.

VII. If two sides of a quadrilateral figure in a circle are parallel, prove that the other two must be equal.

VIII. Inscribe a circle in a given triangle, and a circle in a quadrant of a circle.

IX. Show how to divide a given line into seven equal parts.

X. Find the area of a triangle which is equilateral and has the three sides together equal to the four sides of a square whose area is a2.

EXAMINATION PAPERS SET TO BOYS UNDER 13 YEARS OF AGE, CANDIDATES FOR ELECTION TO THE FOUNDATION OF WINCHESTER COLLEGE, JULY, 1882.

FOR LATIN ELEGIACS.
They talk with one another in manifold conversation.
But of himself the old dog. Argus, knew his lord (herum)
Then, for neither the form of his master escapes him, nor his words,
He pricks his ear, and stretches out his grey head. He, once swift to pass the fleeting stags,
Now lies covered with dust on the foul ground.
With ears, and eyes, and tail lie salutes the king;
As he desires to rise his feet had no power.
“What dog, thus nohle to the view, lies here?”? began the hero;
And though he willed it not, his cheeks grew moist.
But, when he had seen his lord after twenty years,
Did the fates of black death lay hold on Argus.

FOR LATIN PROSE.
So great was the consternation of the inhabitants of Londinium, when the news came that Jumbonius must leave the shores of England, that not even the judges and senators could refrain from openly expressing their grief. Added to these the voices of women and children were heard, exclaiming that now they were being shamefully deprived of their chief pleasure. “How long,”? said they, “must we endure such wrongs? Do not imagine, O Prefect of the gardens, that thy deceit is unknown. Thou hast sold for money to foreigners the joy of our children, the pride of our native land, the consumer of sweetmeats. What can be more disgraceful than for a noble animal, whom we all love, to be enticed against his will into a cage, exposed to the waves of the Atlantic, and delivered to the unknown tortures of his enemies?”? To these complaints the Prefect replied that the money had been paid, and that the purchaser asked if it was just that so many thousands of the citizens of the great republic should be defrauded of the spectacle, which had now long since been promised to them.

GEOGRAPHY.
I. What is a glacier, an iceberg, a spring, a springtide, dew?
II. Draw a map of Italy, marking the chief ranges of mountains, rivers, and twelve important towns.
III. In what countries, and on what rivers, are the following towns:—Dresden, Oporto, New Orleans, Alexandria, Nijni Novgorod, Rustchuk, Montreal, Cordova, Rangoon, Liverpool?
IV. A Russian gentleman, averse to railways, wished to go from St. Petersburg to Odessa; name, in order, the seas and straits through which he would have to pass.

HISTORY.
I. The chief events of the reign of Edward I. giving the dates as nearly as you can.
II. In what English reigns do we hear the most of Ireland? Give a short account of the leading events connected with it.
III. With what events do you connect the following places:—Worcester, Runnymede, Torbay, Glencoe, Evesham, the Nore?
IV. Who were Jack Cade, Judge Jeffreys, Sir W. Wallace, Clive, Titus Oates, Sir Walter Raleigh, Lord Raglan, Anselm?
From  Where Shall I Educate my Son? (1884) by Charles Eyre Pascoe via http://www.edwardianpromenade.com/

I have a bachelors degree (double major graduated cum laude) and two masters degrees and this is scary stuff. But in 1882 fifteen year olds expecting to get into a good school were expected to know all of this cold. If a fifteen year old today could answer half of these questions s/he would be considered a prodigy on their way to a Nobel prize!

P.S. For anyone trying their hand at the questions above please remember that the British Pound Sterling was not decimalized until 1970. So for the purposes of this exam £1 = 20 shillings each composed of 12d or 240 pence to the Pound. You may begin your exam now. Good luck.
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I completely agree our culture has been "dumbed down" significantly, at least in matters of general knowledge.  The "Snopes" rebuttal ... maybe, but it seems to be more of an excuse than deserved.

Here is another example from the US in 1895 - the 8th grade exam.

http://www.salina.com/1895test/

Good luck on this one too.  ;D

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Back then, wasn't formal education at that age mostly for the children of the rich or upper class? My impression is that the very institutions of education were probably very different back then vs now. There was no generalized desire to educate everybody, just those bright enough for it to make a difference. So I would expect that standards would have been more rigorous owing to the higher caliber of the average student.
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Pointedstick wrote: Back then, wasn't formal education at that age mostly for the children of the rich or upper class? My impression is that the very institutions of education were probably very different back then vs now. There was no generalized desire to educate everybody, just those bright enough for it to make a difference. So I would expect that standards would have been more rigorous owing to the higher caliber of the average student.
In the United States universal public education had become normative by the later 19th century with the 8th grade being what a lot of students made it to given the needs of the family for the income the child could generate on the farm or in the factory/mine. That test is pretty brutal, though at least they skipped the Latin and Greek composition.

Side note: The answer provided for the question asking for the names and capitals of the republics of Europe is wrong. In 1895 there were only two republics in Europe, France and Switzerland.
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Ad Orientem wrote:
Side note: The answer provided for the question asking for the names and capitals of the republics of Europe is wrong. In 1895 there were only two republics in Europe, France and Switzerland.
I believe kudos are in order for AO.  Here, here!  He hereby passes 8th grade with flying colors ... or is that colours?

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Mountaineer wrote:
Ad Orientem wrote:
Side note: The answer provided for the question asking for the names and capitals of the republics of Europe is wrong. In 1895 there were only two republics in Europe, France and Switzerland.
I believe kudos are in order for AO.  Here, here!  He hereby passes 8th grade with flying colors ... or is that colours?

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Ad Orientem wrote: In the United States universal public education had become normative by the later 19th century with the 8th grade being what a lot of students made it to given the needs of the family for the income the child could generate on the farm or in the factory/mine. That test is pretty brutal, though at least they skipped the Latin and Greek composition.
What was the graduation rate, though? What was the expected graduation rate?

I guess I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that the average 15 year-old could have passed that test in 1882. It seems preposterous to me. What would make more sense to me is if that test was the SAT of the era, maybe. Still, that's some tough stuff. I wonder what proportion of test-takers passed, or what the average score was.
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Xan wrote:
Mountaineer wrote:
Ad Orientem wrote:
Side note: The answer provided for the question asking for the names and capitals of the republics of Europe is wrong. In 1895 there were only two republics in Europe, France and Switzerland.
I believe kudos are in order for AO.  Here, here!  He hereby passes 8th grade with flying colors ... or is that colours?

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That's "hear, hear".  :-)
No, no, no!  It's "here, here" as in this forum ... and a play on words?  Was that sufficient after-the-fact double-stepping slick-Willying to avoid embarrassment from making a gramatical boo-boo?  ;)

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Desert wrote: I just wanted to let everyone know that I'm teaching my 7 year old son algebra.  I know that has little to do with this thread, but I just thought y'all should know.  He's picking it up pretty well so far.  I can't use "X" though, because it makes him think about multiplication.  So I use "Y" instead.  :)
Completely appropriate to use Y to substitute for an X ... he is a male.  ;)

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Give the nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
  Only nine?
Give two rules for spelling words with final "e." Name two exceptions under each rule.
  Brie and Monkey render these rules useless.
A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
  Two rods, a furlong, and a peck.
What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per in.?
  per square inch?
What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, Subvocals, Diphthong, Cognate, Linguals?
  "Billy called Suzy a dipthong and had his mouth washed out with soap."

There are lots of rules, definitions, open-ended questions ("What is climate?"), etc.  In looking at these 1895 test questions, there would have to have been a whole bunch of "teaching to the test", just like today.  "OK, class, repeat after me.  The first rule of using capital letters is..."
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WildAboutHarry wrote:
Give the nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
  Only nine?
Give two rules for spelling words with final "e." Name two exceptions under each rule.
  Brie and Monkey render these rules useless.
A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
  Two rods, a furlong, and a peck.
What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per in.?
  per square inch?
What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, Subvocals, Diphthong, Cognate, Linguals?
  "Billy called Suzy a dipthong and had his mouth washed out with soap."

There are lots of rules, definitions, open-ended questions ("What is climate?"), etc.  In looking at these 1895 test questions, there would have to have been a whole bunch of "teaching to the test", just like today.  "OK, class, repeat after me.  The first rule of using capital letters is..."
How about this old chestnut: Use "defeat", "deduct", "defense", and "detail" in a sentence.

Also, I recall a time in elementary school when the teacher used "witch" and "which" as an example of homophones. I pointed out that they are not homophones. She persisted in her erroneous claim, so I went to her dictionary and pointed out that it showed different pronunciations for those words ("w" vs. "hw"). Her response was to hit me with the dictionary.
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Libertarian666 wrote: How about this old chestnut: Use "defeat", "deduct", "defense", and "detail" in a sentence.
This is a sentence including the words defeat, deduct, defense, and detail.
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rickb wrote:
Libertarian666 wrote: How about this old chestnut: Use "defeat", "deduct", "defense", and "detail" in a sentence.
This is a sentence including the words defeat, deduct, defense, and detail.
True, but I was thinking of "Defeat of deduct went over defense before detail."
It is funnier when you say it out loud.  :P
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