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Re: Jim Rickards new book is an interesting read - almost PP like

Post by dualstow » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:22 pm

Yeah, Odyssey.
But how many ocean munching whirlpool sucking monsters do they have? O0
Maybe one poem alludes to the other.

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Post by vnatale » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:26 pm

Xan wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:03 pm
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12) On the first page of the book he quotes from Homer's Illiad poem (never read it). One mythological woman in it has six heads with teeth that would make JAWS seem tiny while she had six ferocious dogs around her waste. The other mythological woman swallowed whole oceans and then caused whirlpools. I forget which one he chose to accept as the lesser risk. But he analogizes the risks presented by each with the risks the Fed assesses in taking their actions in that they are forced to make the choice between two bad outcomes.
Must be Scylla and Charybdis. “Between a rock and a hard place.”
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Surely that's the Odyssey, though, right?
I thought it was the Illiad and the Odyssey? I've already previously stated my reading is almost 100% confined to non-fiction and I was never assigned to read Homer at any time in school.

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Re: Jim Rickards new book is an interesting read - almost PP like

Post by Xan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:35 pm

vnatale wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:26 pm
Xan wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:03 pm
vnatale wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:54 pm
dualstow wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:37 pm
vnatale wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:38 pm

12) On the first page of the book he quotes from Homer's Illiad poem (never read it). One mythological woman in it has six heads with teeth that would make JAWS seem tiny while she had six ferocious dogs around her waste. The other mythological woman swallowed whole oceans and then caused whirlpools. I forget which one he chose to accept as the lesser risk. But he analogizes the risks presented by each with the risks the Fed assesses in taking their actions in that they are forced to make the choice between two bad outcomes.
Must be Scylla and Charybdis. “Between a rock and a hard place.”
I believe you are correct!

Vinny
Surely that's the Odyssey, though, right?
I thought it was the Illiad and the Odyssey? I've already previously stated my reading is almost 100% confined to non-fiction and I was never assigned to read Homer at any time in school.

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The Iliad is one epic poem, about the fall of Ilium, also known as Troy. The Odyssey is the sequel about Odysseus's journey back home.

Epic poetry like that kind of straddles the line between fiction and nonfiction. It's almost always in the nonfiction section of the library.
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:09 pm

They're also mentioned in the Aeneid, which is about Trojans who survived the war and escaped to eventually found Rome.
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Post by Xan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:36 pm

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They're also mentioned in the Aeneid, which is about Trojans who survived the war and escaped to eventually found Rome.
It's an origin story for Rome itself! Pretty neat.

Think about this: the Aeneid is an ancient epic poem. And it was written a thousand years (a THOUSAND years) after the Iliad and the Odyssey.
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Post by Smith1776 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:34 am

Why do financial authors all seem to have a penchant for quoting classic texts like this?

Ben Graham, too, had lots of quotes from Horace, Virgil, and the like. I believe Burton Malkiel has a few as well.
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Post by vnatale » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:21 pm

dualstow wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:37 pm
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12) On the first page of the book he quotes from Homer's Illiad poem (never read it). One mythological woman in it has six heads with teeth that would make JAWS seem tiny while she had six ferocious dogs around her waste. The other mythological woman swallowed whole oceans and then caused whirlpools. I forget which one he chose to accept as the lesser risk. But he analogizes the risks presented by each with the risks the Fed assesses in taking their actions in that they are forced to make the choice between two bad outcomes.
Must be Scylla and Charybdis. “Between a rock and a hard place.”
Checked that first page of the book and you are, indeed, correct. Not that I was doubting you. And, I'm even more impressed that you knew how to spell each of those names!

And, here is excerpt from the book describing Scylla(excuse the weird symbols that my ancient Eudora email program sometimes adds):

“In Homer’s epic poem the Odyssey, Scylla and Charybdis confront the hero, Odysseus, sailing home after the Trojan War. Scylla and Charybdis were the most feared women of Greek mythology. They lived in caves, a bowshot apart on each side of a narrow strait. Although female in nature, they were monsters. Scylla had six heads. Each mouth had rows of razor-sharp teeth that made the shark in Jaws seem tame. Her waist was shrouded with heads of baying dogs. She swam and walked on twelve snaky legs and devoured all within reach.”

Excerpt From: Rickards, James. “Aftermath.” Penguin Publishing Group, 2019-07-23T04:00:00+00:00. iBooks.
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Post by dualstow » Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:21 am

I love Greek mythology, but those two are quite famous.

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Post by vnatale » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:27 am

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I love Greek mythology, but those two are quite famous.
I have a memory of a book from my high school days -- Edith Hamilton - Mythology.

Correct memory?

I also seem to have a memory of reading it all or part of it and being fascinated by it.

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Post by dualstow » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:58 am

Google would tell you, but yeah, she is also famous (and easier to spell).
I remember not enjoying the hardcover of hers as a kid, but I took a really fun class in junior high (Didn't use that book), and the teacher was great at storytelling. Most satisfying class in my first 12 years of school, hands down. I wish I hadn't goofed around with my friend so much.

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Post by boglerdude » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:42 pm

> I wish I hadn't goofed around with my friend so much

Maybe kids should be given small investment accounts to play with...at an age earlier than 25 (which I guess is the average). Nothing focuses the mind like your own skin in the game. My interest in econ and politics doubled when faced with the prospect of losing my life's labor
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Post by vnatale » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:39 pm

Tonight finished reading the book.

I give it no less than a grade of A. It is the type of book that as soon as I finish it I want to reread it but this time around in a more slow, studying fashion so as to retain and absorb more of the material.

It was not only interesting from a financial point of view but he had a fair amount of politics in it, which gave me two of my favorite reading subjects.

It did cause me tonight to buy his five other books.

Here are his proscriptions from this book:

Investment Secret #1: Tariffs and trade surpluses are back in style. Prepare for a more mercantilist world.

Investment Secret #2: Prepare for slow growth and periodic recessions for decades to come.

Investment Secret #3: Beware the hidden hand of behavioral manipulation. Watch out for nudges.

Investment Secret #4: Seek diversification away from exchange-traded markets by allocating to cash, gold, and alternatives.

Investment Secret #5: Low productivity may mean inflation . . . or deflation.

Investment Secret #6: Prepare for asset-backed currencies with physical gold.

Investment Secret #7: Allocate wealth to alternative assets.

In his conclusion he had this: "The best depiction of life after a financial collapse is found in The Mandibles, a brilliant 2016 novel by the award-winning author Lionel Shriver. The novel offers details of an economic collapse in 2029, but is mostly concerned with the lives of everyday people living in the aftermath."

He then gave much detail about that book. Anyone here read it? It caused me to also buy that book tonight and it will be one of my RARE fiction book reads.

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