The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by pugchief » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:09 pm

Thank you for that clear explanation. Of course I already knew most of that (except the Latinx part) since I had 2 years of college Spanish. But my brain just couldn't make the leap to such tripe without help.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Maddy » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:07 pm

Xan wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:06 pm
In Spanish and other Latin-derived languages, an "-a" suffix indicates the feminine. A group consisting entirely of Hispanic women are said to be "Latina".

When there's at least one man in a group, it goes to the default "Latino".

This means that there isn't a way to describe a group entirely comprised of men, but there is for women. However, this is cast as sexism in that a single man changes the sex of the entire group to the masculine.

"Latinx" apparently is the PC way to say "Latin of any sex".
All that to avoid having to say the word "Mexican."
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by stuper1 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:22 pm

A Mexicanx would be a Mexican of either race.

I could be wrong, but I think the Latinx thing is also considered useful for the growing number of people who don't know whether they are male or female, or whose conception thereof may change frequently, perhaps even daily or less. Speaking of tripe.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by dualstow » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:25 pm

stuper1 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:22 pm
I could be wrong, but I think the Latinx thing is also considered useful for the growing number of people who don't know whether they are male or female,
Sometimes the truth lies somewhere between




and that's where they should peek.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by sophie » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:11 am

Seriously, everyone is now afraid to assign gender to a person based on appearance. We got a "sensitivity" training where something like that is a reportable offense (which could result in fines or even firing), if the person referred to disagrees with their gender assignment. Scary stuff. We all now have to be careful to use words like "they" or "their" to refer to one person.

It's kind of funny that this is going on even while NIH is trying to push sex as a biological variable, e.g. you now have to replicate all experiments done with male mice with female mice. And, it's well known that there IS some gender specificity in risk factors to certain diseases, clinical course, response to treatments etc, so we are supposed to record gender in notes. Typically, we do this without asking patients because, well, it's kind of obvious. I wonder how long it will be before there's a misguided lawsuit or government regulation about this.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by dualstow » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:17 am

sophie wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:11 am
...
It's kind of funny that this is going on even while NIH is trying to push sex as a biological variable, e.g. you now have to replicate all experiments done with male mice with female mice. And, it's well known that there IS some gender specificity in risk factors to certain diseases, clinical course, response to treatments etc, so we are supposed to record gender in notes.
...
tsk tsk tsk. Who is standing up for trans and non-binary mice?!

Btw, there is a flood of genderless emoji out now for roles like policeperson. Fine, but...it constitutes most of the new emoji.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by drumminj » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:11 pm

dualstow wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:17 am
...it constitutes most of the new emoji.
Moral of the story: stick with IRC and text-based web browsers! (and no emojis)

On topic: trying to remember from first-aid training...aren't heart-attack symptoms(where pain manifests) different in men and women? If the Red Cross starts telling me I need to ask someone their gender identity before triaging whether someone is having a heart-attack or just having gas from the Chicago-style deep-dish pizza they had for lunch, I think I may have to volunteer for one of the first manned missions to Mars. Or not to Mars - just anywhere but here.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by dualstow » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:15 am

drumminj wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:11 pm
dualstow wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:17 am
...it constitutes most of the new emoji.
Moral of the story: stick with IRC and text-based web browsers! (and no emojis)
...(on-topic stuff)...
Moral of the story? No, LOL, that’s throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by dualstow » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:44 pm

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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Kriegsspiel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:52 pm

dualstow wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:44 pm
Not ‘The Onion’, tech:

https://twitter.com/peterboghossian/sta ... 45248?s=20
IIRC that guy is the one who got the fake studies published by academia.
There's this very disturbing set of studies where about half the articles printed in Science and Nature magazines, the two leading publications, involved experiments that could not be repeated by anybody.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Kriegsspiel » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:53 pm

And even knowing that... I can't tell if that's a fake poster or a real one ;D
There's this very disturbing set of studies where about half the articles printed in Science and Nature magazines, the two leading publications, involved experiments that could not be repeated by anybody.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by dualstow » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:15 pm

Lisa Weasel is quite real, and if he faked it, I doubt he would put her name on it. That would be crossing a line.
https://www.pdx.edu/ws/lisa-weasel

My guess is that she was an inspiration for some of those awesome fake proposals. O0
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:52 pm
dualstow wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:44 pm
Not ‘The Onion’, tech:

https://twitter.com/peterboghossian/sta ... 45248?s=20
IIRC that guy is the one who got the fake studies published by academia.
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:53 pm
And even knowing that... I can't tell if that's a fake poster or a real one ;D
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