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Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:59 am
by Libertarian666

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:58 pm
by Tyler
Just another lesson in correlation vs. causation.

So California marijuana smokers are more likely to have a Masters degree, make more money, and enjoy the outdoors? An alternative interpretation is simply that hedonistic professionals in LA and San Francisco smoke disproportionately more pot compared to their hard-working neighbors in the central valley.

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:36 pm
by Mark Leavy
Tyler wrote:Just another lesson in correlation vs. causation.
I've always suspected that Tech understands this quite well.

I haven't yet discovered the secret, but it seems that there is big money to be made by milking people that can't differentiate correlation from causation. Maybe it just requires a bit of character flaw that I am reluctant to embrace...

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:53 pm
by Mountaineer
Mark Leavy wrote:
Tyler wrote:Just another lesson in correlation vs. causation.
I've always suspected that Tech understands this quite well.

I haven't yet discovered the secret, but it seems that there is big money to be made by milking people that can't differentiate correlation from causation. Maybe it just requires a bit of character flaw that I am reluctant to embrace...
8) And, by milking people who cannot differentiate between "my own" truth and "the" truth. ;)

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:04 pm
by Libertarian666
Tyler wrote:Just another lesson in correlation vs. causation.

So California marijuana smokers are more likely to have a Masters degree, make more money, and enjoy the outdoors? An alternative interpretation is simply that hedonistic professionals in LA and San Francisco smoke disproportionately more pot compared to their hard-working neighbors in the central valley.
Indeed this doesn't show causation.

But it does raise doubts about the standard narrative that pot smokers are lazy good-for-nothings.

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:41 pm
by buddtholomew
20 years daily and still Director of Business Intelligence at a fortune 400 company...
Time to look at marijuana in a different light.

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:53 pm
by Mountaineer
buddtholomew wrote:20 years daily and still Director of Business Intelligence at a fortune 400 company...
Time to look at marijuana in a different light.
Did the company start at 1/400 and fall to 400/400 or vice versa or something in between? Is the director the most or least stoned of the management cadre? ;)

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:56 am
by farjean2
Mountaineer wrote: 8) And, by milking people who cannot differentiate between "my own" truth and "the" truth. ;)
Care to elaborate about what that actually means. I suspect it belongs over in the religion thread and if so, don't bother.

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:43 am
by WiseOne
buddtholomew wrote:20 years daily and still Director of Business Intelligence at a fortune 400 company...
Time to look at marijuana in a different light.
This kind of thing is already well known. Look up Dr. William Halstead, the first Professor of Surgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital. He was addicted to morphine for most of his professional life.

People destroy their lives and use recreational drugs, but there isn't necessarily a causal relationship between them.

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:23 pm
by Mountaineer
farjean2 wrote:
Mountaineer wrote: 8) And, by milking people who cannot differentiate between "my own" truth and "the" truth. ;)
Care to elaborate about what that actually means. I suspect it belongs over in the religion thread and if so, don't bother.
Sure. Your reply is an example of "my truth" vs "the truth". Think post-modern philosophy vs modern for understanding my original post that you had a suspicion about. Hope that helps.

Re: Maybe they just think they are happier and more successful?

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:14 pm
by farjean2
Mountaineer wrote:
farjean2 wrote:
Mountaineer wrote: 8) And, by milking people who cannot differentiate between "my own" truth and "the" truth. ;)
Care to elaborate about what that actually means. I suspect it belongs over in the religion thread and if so, don't bother.
Sure. Your reply is an example of "my truth" vs "the truth". Think post-modern philosophy vs modern for understanding my original post that you had a suspicion about. Hope that helps.
Not really but I'll leave it there.