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I am in the strange position of knowing that I am on the ‘Kill List’. I know this because I have been told, and I know because I have been targeted for death over and over again. Four times missiles have been fired at me. I am extraordinarily fortunate to be alive.
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I am aware that the Americans and their allies think the Peace Committee is a front, and that we are merely creating a safe space for the Pakistan Taliban. To this I say: you are wrong. You have never been to Waziristan, so how would you know?

The mantra that the West should not negotiate with “terrorists” is naive. There has hardly ever been a time when terrorists have been brought back into the fold of society without negotiation. Remember the IRA; once they tried to blow up your prime minister, and now they are in parliament. It is always better to talk than to kill.

I have travelled half way across the world because I want to resolve this dispute the way you teach: by using the law and the courts, not guns and explosives.

Libertarian666 wrote: If this isn't enough to convince you to re-convert to libertarianism, I don't know what would be enough.

Pointedstick wrote:

Libertarian666 wrote: If this isn't enough to convince you to re-convert to libertarianism, I don't know what would be enough.

In terms of foreign policy and military interventionism, I never left.

Libertarian666 wrote: I'm glad to hear that, but unfortunately the existence of government is the problem.

curlew wrote:

Libertarian666 wrote: I'm glad to hear that, but unfortunately the existence of government is the problem.

So what planet do you recommend we all relocate to?

Desert wrote:

Libertarian666 wrote:

curlew wrote: So what planet do you recommend we all relocate to?

I don't think interplanetary travel is available yet.

So in the meantime the best bet is for a bunch of like-minded people to move together to a country that is a lot less intrusive in the affairs of its residents.

Of course any libertarian/anarchist paradise could be quickly invaded by even a second-rate state with a conscripted military.  A lasting anarchist society is as practical as a global Disneyland.

Libertarian666 wrote: Uruguay has a lot to recommend it.

Kriegsspiel wrote: It would just look like Afghanistan.

Desert wrote:

Libertarian666 wrote:

curlew wrote: So what planet do you recommend we all relocate to?

I don't think interplanetary travel is available yet.

So in the meantime the best bet is for a bunch of like-minded people to move together to a country that is a lot less intrusive in the affairs of its residents.

Of course any libertarian/anarchist paradise could be quickly invaded by even a second-rate state with a conscripted military.  A lasting anarchist society is as practical as a global Disneyland.

Kriegsspiel wrote:

Desert wrote:

Libertarian666 wrote: I don't think interplanetary travel is available yet.

So in the meantime the best bet is for a bunch of like-minded people to move together to a country that is a lot less intrusive in the affairs of its residents.

Of course any libertarian/anarchist paradise could be quickly invaded by even a second-rate state with a conscripted military.  A lasting anarchist society is as practical as a global Disneyland.

It would just look like Afghanistan.

Mountaineer wrote: North Korea is nice, depending on your circumstances.

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Libertarian666 wrote:

Kriegsspiel wrote:

Desert wrote: Of course any libertarian/anarchist paradise could be quickly invaded by even a second-rate state with a conscripted military.  A lasting anarchist society is as practical as a global Disneyland.

It would just look like Afghanistan.

I thought the meme was "without big government we would all be living in Somalia". When was it changed to "Afghanistan"?

Libertarian666 wrote: It's possible to assassinate just about anyone with high technology and a willingness to die if necessary.

Pointedstick wrote:

Libertarian666 wrote: It's possible to assassinate just about anyone with high technology and a willingness to die if necessary.

You know it sounds like something that happens a lot in Somalia and Afghanistan, but I'm having trouble putting my finger on it.

Libertarian666 wrote:

Pointedstick wrote:

Libertarian666 wrote: It's possible to assassinate just about anyone with high technology and a willingness to die if necessary.

You know it sounds like something that happens a lot in Somalia and Afghanistan, but I'm having trouble putting my finger on it.

And how are the attempts to impose external rule on those countries going?

Not very well, which was my point.

Pointedstick wrote:

Libertarian666 wrote:

Pointedstick wrote: You know it sounds like something that happens a lot in Somalia and Afghanistan, but I'm having trouble putting my finger on it.

And how are the attempts to impose external rule on those countries going?

Not very well, which was my point.

True. However, they have not succeeded in ending external attempts to control them, nor have their anarchic tendencies resulted in them becoming highly desirable places to live with strong market economies, high degrees of prosperity, respect for individual rights, or common destinations for foreign investment and liberty-minded individualists.

Which is other people's point. So maybe everyone's right!