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Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:49 am
by clacy
I really expected him to wait until after New Hampshire.

It will be quite interesting to see where the votes go from these bottom tier candidates as they drop out.  I would expect Bush and Kasich's will line up behind Rubio.  Carson and Rand's supporters are anyone's guess, IMO. 

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:25 am
by Libertarian666
That really sucks. What would be the cost of waiting another few days?

Especially after he was still soliciting donations yesterday.  >:(

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:32 am
by Pointedstick
Libertarian666 wrote: That really sucks. What would be the cost of waiting another few days?
To put it another way, what would have been the benefit? :-\

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:52 am
by Libertarian666
Pointedstick wrote:
Libertarian666 wrote: That really sucks. What would be the cost of waiting another few days?
To put it another way, what would have been the benefit? :-\
The benefit would be that the people who gave him money on the basis that he was going to keep campaigning wouldn't be pissed off and refuse to support him in the future.

And by the way, his web site is still asking for donations even now.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:17 am
by clacy
One way to look at it is it prevents others from throwing good money after bad.  Ron had hit his ceiling.  He's been running for the past two years now and at one point was considered a front runner. 

I wonder which campaign his staffers will flee to.  That may tell us a lot about why he left when he did.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:11 am
by Libertarian666
Desert wrote: Hmm, I wonder what Paul's supporters will do now.  There really isn't a decent second-choice guy for them. 

For me, this politics thing is a game of trying to figure out which candidate would do the least damage if elected.  That eliminates a bunch of candidates in a hurry, and leaves a few undesirable-but-not-completely-batshit-crazy guys to choose from.
I guess I should start supporting Sanders now.  At least I agree with him on some things. :P

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:16 pm
by Libertarian666
Desert wrote:
Libertarian666 wrote:
Desert wrote: Hmm, I wonder what Paul's supporters will do now.  There really isn't a decent second-choice guy for them. 

For me, this politics thing is a game of trying to figure out which candidate would do the least damage if elected.  That eliminates a bunch of candidates in a hurry, and leaves a few undesirable-but-not-completely-batshit-crazy guys to choose from.
I guess I should start supporting Sanders now.  At least I agree with him on some things. :P
I like Sanders, but I'm not sure if I agree with him on much.  What positions of his do you agree with?  Less foreign intervention?
1. Less foreign intervention
2. Fine with pot legalization
3. Environmentalism (although of course this is very complex)
4. Not a gun grabber

Which is four more things than I agree with Hitlary on.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:22 pm
by Xan
Also, as I think PS pointed out, much of Bernie's crazy would be neutralized by Congress.  But particularly in terms of things like foreign intervention, he'd have his way.

Assuming he doesn't just do an end-around around Congress, of course.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:52 pm
by Libertarian666
Xan wrote: Also, as I think PS pointed out, much of Bernie's crazy would be neutralized by Congress.  But particularly in terms of things like foreign intervention, he'd have his way.

Assuming he doesn't just do an end-around around Congress, of course.
I may have been the one who pointed that out, but I agree with it even if I didn't.  ;D

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:01 pm
by Reub
Paul has to run to keep his Kentucky Senate job now. What a charlatan!

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:16 pm
by Reub
IDrinkBloodLOL wrote:
Libertarian666 wrote:-All the remaining Republicans in the race, other than possibly Trump, are warmongers who may get us into WWIII.
-Nuclear war is a really bad idea that will result in a total worldwide catastrophe.
-Republicans, therefore, are more likely to cause a total worldwide catastrophe than Sanders.

Note that I'm not a Democrat; I'm an anarcho-capitalist. But as mentioned above, I agree with Sanders on several issues, whereas I agree with Hitlary on nothing and the remaining R candidates on almost nothing.
Most Republicans are devils and are similarly anti-white both in word and deed. Trump is the only one who shows any potential in this area at all.

Both of the main political parties in this country are overt traitors who differ only in how they want to genocide me and my whole family.
Blood drinker, have you considered a career in psychiatry?

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:20 pm
by Pointedstick
IDBLOL, If you received a patient who you found out was a Democrat, wouldn't you have a duty to refuse them care, according to your assessment of the way the world works? After all, by healing them, you would be strengthening the forces that you believe want to commit genocide against your tribe.  So the fewer Democrats the better, no?

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:27 pm
by Reub
Is the blood drinker really mathjak or machineghost coming back to haunt us?

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:01 pm
by Pointedstick
Are you sure medicine is the right profession for you?

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:05 pm
by Greg
IDrinkBloodLOL wrote:
Pointedstick wrote: IDBLOL, If you received a patient who you found out was a Democrat, wouldn't you have a duty to refuse them care, according to your assessment of the way the world works? After all, by healing them, you would be strengthening the forces that you believe want to commit genocide against your tribe.  So the fewer Democrats the better, no?
I will have no choice for many years but to treat whoever I am assigned to treat.

However, ultimately I intend to end up in a practice arrangement that allows me to pick and choose like that.

Anyone care to give me an executive summary on mathjak and machineghost? They sound like swell guys.
machineghost, a humanist who believes there is something out there but we can't determine what it is. Has a ton of knowledge on supplements for eating, and a bunch of other useful information. He is a very prolific poster who posts on a lot of different topics but then goes into hibernation after he gets too filled up with this forum. He's kinda a wide open throttle or the engine is off kinda guy.

mathjak, very interesting personality on other forums who had a big history of using the PP. Once he got to our forum, he posted A LOT and was posting the same things a lot of the time and into everyone's threads. A lot of people ended up ignoring him as he would constantly criticize the PP strategy, even though digging into his past he had used it for a long time. Really it should have been that he should say that the PP worked for him but then he found something that suited him better (active stock manager funds with Fidelity). He eventually got sick of everyone saying they didn't like that he'd post the same things all the time and he left the forum.

For others, does that sum them up well?

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:13 pm
by Xan
Lately he's been sounding a bit like the 'shart...

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:04 pm
by Austen Heller
Maybe there should be a Hall of Fame/Shame thread for remembering past PP forum members.  Gone but not forgotten: clive, kshartle, mathjak...

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:29 pm
by MediumTex
Desert wrote: I liked Clive ... that guy was a super random portfolio generator.  :)
I liked him too until he started wiping his nose on the table cloth.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:08 am
by Reub
Clive just knew much too much and couldn't be allowed to continue on.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:09 am
by Reub
And what of  Storm, Wonk and Gumby?

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:06 am
by MediumTex
Reub wrote: And what of  Storm, Wonk and Gumby?
And LoneWolf.

I think that once you have either taught everything you have to teach or learn everything you think there is to learn, you sometimes just wander on to new pastures.

OTOH, sometimes you can have too much fun, and you have to get away because it's turning into a time sink you can't afford.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:47 am
by jafs
IDrinkBloodLOL wrote:
Pointedstick wrote: Are you sure medicine is the right profession for you?
Yes, I'm quite competent for my level of training. I intend to enjoy it!
I think the question related more to temperament.

Only wanting to treat people who have the same political outlook as you do doesn't seem very compatible with the Hippocratic oath, for example.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:10 am
by Jack Jones
MediumTex wrote:
Desert wrote: I liked Clive ... that guy was a super random portfolio generator.  :)
I liked him too until he started wiping his nose on the table cloth.
Did he delete all of his own posts, or was it done by a moderator? It's tough to follow old threads with his side of the discussion missing.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:55 pm
by Austen Heller
TennPaGa wrote: He would delete them himself periodically.  I can't remember why.
I never understood why he would do that.  My main takeaway from his posts was that it is better to go with a rolling ladder of bonds at the steepest part of the yield curve, rather than the classic ST-LT bond barbell.  Makes sense to me.

Getting back to the OP's subject, I am sorry to see Rand Paul leaving so soon, I appreciated his contributions to the debates.  He's a young guy, I'm sure we'll see him in many more election cycles.

Re: Rand Paul ends campaign

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:22 pm
by Reub
TennPaGa wrote:
Jack Jones wrote:
MediumTex wrote: I liked him too until he started wiping his nose on the table cloth.
Did he delete all of his own posts, or was it done by a moderator? It's tough to follow old threads with his side of the discussion missing.
He would delete them himself periodically.  I can't remember why.
I think he worked in the financial business in the UK and didn't want to get in trouble with the man.