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Sixth place in Iowa, ouch! Can poor Jeb take much more of this?

Pointedstick wrote: Sixth place in Iowa, ouch! Can poor Jeb take much more of this?

He's got $50 million in PAC money to spend, so he will be around a while longer.

If it were me, I would set up "issue conferences" in some interesting places around the country I always wanted to visit.

Does he get to keep the money if he drops out?

Great thread title!

Reub wrote: Does he get to keep the money if he drops out?

Not really.

dualstow wrote: Great thread title!

Is it pronounced "Yeb" or "Heb"?

MediumTex wrote:

Reub wrote: Does he get to keep the money if he drops out?

Not really.

Well, the SuperPAC money isn't his anyway, so he can't keep that. As for his personal campaign, see http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/leftov ... ign-funds/

Libertarian666 wrote:

MediumTex wrote:

Reub wrote: Does he get to keep the money if he drops out?

Not really.

Well, the SuperPAC money isn't his anyway, so he can't keep that. As for his personal campaign, see http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/leftov ... ign-funds/

Yeah, but if your people are indirectly guiding how it is spent, the benefits from the money will basically all be for you.  If you cause $100,000 in PAC money to be spent on another candidate or cause, whoever you spend it on owes you, and sooner or later you will be able to call in that favor.

My heart breaks for poor Jeb bush. The man has been so humiliated, I just want to give him a big hug.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/02/ ... ampshire#2

TennPaGa wrote: From the article:



Ouch.

Jeb apparently never learned Lesson One about running for President: You must have a hatchet man who will slash however many throats it takes to win.

Bush Sr. had Lee Atwater and W. had Karl Rove.

I don't know who Jeb has, but the fact that I haven't heard anything about his ruthlessness tells me that he isn't the right guy.

Jeb also needs to stop busting out the word 'caliphate' in every debate.  He even admits that he didn't know what that meant a year ago, and guess what, almost nobody listening to the debate knows what it means now.  Just makes him look like he's trying to show off his intellectual chops, and nobody is buying.  Now Trump on the other hand, talks like a 4th grade schoolyard bully.  People get that guy.

Don't give up on him quite yet. I see a possible path to victory albeit unlikely.

The top three obviously survive. Plus Jeb because of all of his money.
Trump and Cruz destroy each other, which they are doing.
Jeb somehow takes out the only other insider in Rubio but who knows how? Maybe he has some pictures of him or a police record or something?
Jeb becomes the only insider and must defeat a weakened Trump or a weakened Cruz with all of the Republican machine's help. It's not impossible.

Jeb coming out with some 11th hour incriminating photos of Rubio, reminds me of when the Gore campaign leaked the news that GWBush had an old DWI, just days before the 2000 election.  The Bushes might just have to do something like this to pull poor Jeb out of the trash bin.

Reub wrote: Don't give up on him quite yet. I see a possible path to victory albeit unlikely.

The top three obviously survive. Plus Jeb because of all of his money.
Trump and Cruz destroy each other, which they are doing.
Jeb somehow takes out the only other insider in Rubio but who knows how? Maybe he has some pictures of him or a police record or something?
Jeb becomes the only insider and must defeat a weakened Trump or a weakened Cruz with all of the Republican machine's help. It's not impossible.

Well it looks like Jeb's possible path to the White House might be shaping up after all. Gov. Christie did a hatchet job on the fair haired Marco Robo, possibly knocking him back down to size. If Jeb, with all of his money and contacts, can seize the opportunity and do fairly well in NH and SC while others drop out, and then defeat Rubio in Fla he will be the strongest establishment candidate for the Republicans. If at the same time Trump and Cruz take hatchets to each other vying for the antiestablishment vote then Jeb could eventually become the last man standing. It's possible.

Bush vs. Clinton?  Kill me now.

Austen Heller wrote: Jeb coming out with some 11th hour incriminating photos of Rubio, reminds me of when the Gore campaign leaked the news that GWBush had an old DWI, just days before the 2000 election.  The Bushes might just have to do something like this to pull poor Jeb out of the trash bin.

Maybe some grainy pictures of Rubio in bed with the Tin Man at a rave back in the 1990s.

If you were aiming your biting wit at the Democrats who are destroying us from within it would be a more worthy cause.

Reub wrote: If you were aiming your biting wit at the Democrats who are destroying us from within it would be a more worthy cause.

Okay, maybe some grainy pictures of Hillary and Bill in bed together in the White House in the 1990s?

I don't know how to bite harder than that.

Hillary is just such an incredibly weak candidate, I don't find much sport in poking fun at her.  All that she needs to lose the election is her personality.

If you want to place blame for the current Democratic leadership, I would put it on George W. Bush and his disastrous foreign policy in 2008, and on the boneheaded Republican establishment that somehow thought Mitt Romney had a prayer in 2012.

In other words, the Republicans gave us the current crappy Democratic leadership situation through a combination of arrogance and incompetence.  Trump is the blowback for those miscues.

Reub wrote: If you were aiming your biting wit at the Democrats who are destroying us from within it would be a more worthy cause.

If they are "destroying us," then we should be fighting a war. Why aren't conservatives literally at war against democrats right now?  Why are we even talking about voting when we are being DESTROYED!!!!???

Oh wait that was just a bunch of hyperbole... My bad. I thought you were serious for a second!!

MediumTex wrote:

Austen Heller wrote: Jeb coming out with some 11th hour incriminating photos of Rubio, reminds me of when the Gore campaign leaked the news that GWBush had an old DWI, just days before the 2000 election.  The Bushes might just have to do something like this to pull poor Jeb out of the trash bin.

Maybe some grainy pictures of Rubio in bed with the Tin Man at a rave back in the 1990s.

Wasn't he born in the 90s? 

Will this finally be the last weekend for Jeb "please clap" Bush?  He had been hoping for the endorsement of SC's wildly popular governor, but things did not go his way.  I am sad, having Jeb in the debate line-up was quite entertaining, I guess Donald will have to find a new punching bag.

I just saw a thread posted in another forum reporting rumors that Bush is down to his last $15 million and that SC is likely his last stand. My guess is that SC will effectively knock out Bush, Kasich (who I kind of like) and Carson.

Kasish is actually surging. He's already ahead of Jeb nationally. I expect Jeb's support to shift over to him after Jeb drops out, making him a serious contender.

Pointedstick wrote: Kasish is actually surging. He's already ahead of Jeb nationally. I expect Jeb's support to shift over to him after Jeb drops out, making him a serious contender.

I think Carson will be the next to drop out, followed by Jeb.

That will leave Trump, Cruz, Rubio and Kasich.  Among the non-Trump candidates, I think that Kasich is the most electable.

MediumTex wrote:

Pointedstick wrote: Kasish is actually surging. He's already ahead of Jeb nationally. I expect Jeb's support to shift over to him after Jeb drops out, making him a serious contender.

I think Carson will be the next to drop out, followed by Jeb.

That will leave Trump, Cruz, Rubio and Kasich.  Among the non-Trump candidates, I think that Kasich is the most electable.

I would agree, though I honestly would not be surprised if Carson holds on longer than Jeb.