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Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:48 pm
by Ad Orientem
The Russian rouble has suffered its steepest one-day drop since the default crisis in 1998 as capital flight accelerates, raising the risk of emergency exchange controls and tightening the noose on Russian companies and bodies with more than $680bn (£432bn) of external debt.
The currency has been in freefall since Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states vetoed calls by weaker Opec members for a cut in crude oil output, a move viewed by the Kremlin as a strategic attack on Russia.
A fresh plunge in Brent prices to a five-year low of $67.50 a barrel on Monday caused the dam to break, triggering a 9pc slide in the rouble in a matter of hours.
Analysts said it took huge intervention by the Russian central bank to stop the rout and stablize the rouble at 52.07 to the dollar. “They must have spent billions,”? said Tim Ash, at Standard Bank.
It is extremely rare for a major country to collapse in this fashion, and the trauma is likely to have political consequences. "This has become disorderly. There are no real buyers of the rouble. We know that voices close to president Vladimir Putin want capital controls, and we cannot rule this out," said Lars Christensen, at Danske Bank.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econ ... apses.html

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:02 pm
by MachineGhost
There is already a dash to buy washing machines, cars and computers before they shoot up in price, a shift in behaviour that signals stress.

Scary.

The trade seems dead for sure now.  It just broke major long-term support.  I wonder if KShartle is still furiously doubling down?

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Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:10 am
by Reub
They got what they deserved.

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:33 am
by dualstow
As much as I hate seeing the value of my CVX shares go down, it's worth it if Putin suffers.

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:01 am
by Pointedstick
I read recently that the mood in Russia is that people feel like the rest of the world is trying to isolate and antagonize them; there's the NATO expansion right up to their borders, the threat of missiles in Turkey, OPEC's move to flood the market with the commodity that their government relies on for most of its revenue... I'm sure there's more. I think it's dangerous to poke a bear like this. Putin has already done some bad things to try to recapture some national pride. It's a dangerous situation when a major power starts pushing people around to make itself feel better.

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:30 am
by MachineGhost
Pointedstick wrote: I read recently that the mood in Russia is that people feel like the rest of the world is trying to isolate and antagonize them; there's the NATO expansion right up to their borders, the threat of missiles in Turkey, OPEC's move to flood the market with the commodity that their government relies on for most of its revenue... I'm sure there's more. I think it's dangerous to poke a bear like this. Putin has already done some bad things to try to recapture some national pride. It's a dangerous situation with a major power starts pushing people around to make itself feel better.
That's always the problem with economic sanctions vs diplomacy & engagement.  I think there should be zero tolerance in Muslim regions because frankly they're all batshit crazy, but Russia's an entirely different beast alltogether.

Last time we placed missles in Turkey we wound up with those 12 Days and on the brink of nuclear war.  Joy.

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:32 am
by murphy_p_t
just curious Reub / dualstow...what are your top 5 reasons for hating on Russia?

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:46 am
by Pointedstick
MachineGhost wrote: That's always the problem with economic sanctions vs diplomacy & engagement.  I think there should be zero tolerance in Muslim regions because frankly they're all batshit crazy, but Russia's an entirely different beast alltogether.

Last time we placed missles in Turkey we wound up with those 12 Days and on the brink of nuclear war.  Joy.
Totally agree. The Arab nations are weak, too, and with especially with fracked oil and cheapening solar energy, pose no real threat to us or our interests these days. That doesn't describe Russia. We also have more cultural similarity with Russians than Arabs. All the more reason IMHO to engage with them rather than antagonize and isolate them.

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:39 pm
by Reub
murphy_p_t wrote: just curious Reub / dualstow...what are your top 5 reasons for hating on Russia?
I never liked bare chested men!

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:54 pm
by dualstow
murphy_p_t wrote: just curious Reub / dualstow...what are your top 5 reasons for hating on Russia?
I don't hate Russia. Met a lot of great people there, as well as Russians here (in the States). I hate Putin because I think he is bad for the country, as well as the rest of the world.

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:11 pm
by Ad Orientem
Reub wrote:
murphy_p_t wrote: just curious Reub / dualstow...what are your top 5 reasons for hating on Russia?
I never liked bare chested men!
LOL

Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:22 pm
by MachineGhost
Reub wrote: I never liked bare chested men!
The most interesting man in the world!

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Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:12 pm
by Ad Orientem
Ewwwwwww...

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Re: Russia Reels as Oil Plunges and Sanctions Bite

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:24 pm
by Reub
And its even worse when he's on a horse!