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What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:18 pm
by rhymenocerous
I'm curious how people decide how much to allocate to their VP vs. PP. Since my 401k contributions are much larger than my Roth contributions, I basically need to count a bunch of extra money as my VP. This will probably be all stocks, broken out as: 40% stocks, 20% LTT, 20%, Gold, 20% Cash. I'm a bit nervous, however, that I may be biased in favor of stocks due to their great run-up last year.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:58 pm
by dualstow
30%. After renovation loan & bills are paid, it will be closer to 40%.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:06 pm
by ns3
Around 90% I would say. All but our Roth IRA's which are invested in VWINX.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:52 pm
by Ad Orientem
Somewhere between 80-90%.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:36 pm
by barrett
82.4% give or take a bit depending on the day. I'll eventually have everything set up as PP so that I don't have to think about investments all the time (unless I change my mind!).
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:38 pm
by Pointedstick
About 80%.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:49 pm
by HB Reader
Just a little under 2/3's of our total investments.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:02 pm
by Tyler
Not counting home equity, I'm 100% PP.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:26 am
by goodasgold
HB Reader wrote:
Just a little under 2/3's of our total investments.
Ditto for me.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:08 am
by LazyInvestor
100%
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:48 am
by buddtholomew
The PP comprises 35% of my overall portfolio (taxable, t-IRA). Looking at my investments as a whole, I am 50% equity, 40% fixed income and 10% PM&M (gold, mining stocks).
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:26 am
by foglifter
60%. But a big chunk of my VP sits in PRPFX in a taxable account. I should admit that I think more and more about shifting almost everything to PP.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:43 pm
by Reub
I think that a PP percentage equal to one's age makes a lot of sense.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:36 pm
by foglifter
Reub wrote:
I think that a PP percentage equal to one's age makes a lot of sense.
"Age in PP" surely sounds cool! Our response to Bogleheads' "Age in bonds".
Reub, you should register a trademark.

Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:49 pm
by goodasgold
Reub wrote:
I think that a PP percentage equal to one's age makes a lot of sense.
But, using this scenario, what would comprise the VP for the remainder of your portfolio?
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:27 pm
by Ad Orientem
goodasgold wrote:
Reub wrote:
I think that a PP percentage equal to one's age makes a lot of sense.
But, using this scenario, what would comprise the VP for the remainder of your portfolio?
If I were doing this, I'd use VTI or VT.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:57 pm
by blackomen
I'm using nonstandard implementations of the PP, so depending on how you define it, either 0% or 100%
PP #1 (taxable account):
25% SPY
25% GLD
25% TLT
25% UUP
PP #2 (IRA), the leveraged PP:
1/3 UGL
1/3 SSO
1/3 UBT
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:34 pm
by yankees60
Interested in what your current %'s is and if some of the original posters' %'s have changed.
Vinny
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:02 pm
by drumminj
Thanks for reviving this, yankees60. I've been thinking about this lately as well.
For me, it's about 80%. I have a chunk in Vanguard Wellesley as well (VWIAX) -- about 15%, and then another 5% here and there in CDs and an angel investment.
I'm currently in the lucky position of being able to save a lot of cash each month/contribute to savings. I've been putting it to Wellesley over the past year, but been thinking about how to allocate new savings going forward.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:08 pm
by Smith1776
100%

Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:24 am
by Tortoise
Close to 100% for almost 10 years now.
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:32 am
by boglerdude
How does owning primary residence influence this. If you could sell if you needed to
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:07 am
by mathjak107
it doesn't .... a home is a consumption item that cost you money as it provides your housing , until you sell it and convert it to invest able assets . it should be kept totally separate from conventional portfolio allocations .
even in retirement it is never used to base a draw on as you would a portfolio value ... it can act as collateral for costly loans but once the equity is in it is a one way funnel and can't come out without just borrowing money , the same as someone could who rented and had other assets to use as collateral .. even a reverse mortgage is a balloon payment loan ... you just have the choice of leaving them the house to pay it off.
so when it is cash and sold then you re-evalute with it otherwise it plays no role
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:12 pm
by sophie
I wish it were 100%, but it's about 40%. The rest is in employer tax-deferred (403b) accounts where I can't buy gold, so I put those into a Boglehead-style 3 fund portfolio. That will be fixed when I retire, and I'll be a "100%-er" then!
Re: What % of your Total Portfolio is the PP?
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:54 pm
by Cortopassi
100%