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Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:40 pm
by dualstow
Note this line:
Google said the Titan team will work closely with Google's Project Loon, which is building large, high-altitude balloons that send Internet signals to areas of the world that are currently not online.
That reads rather like the science fiction novel, Singularity Sky. Neat!

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 1702936522

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:43 pm
by Reub
As I've already said, Google is taking over the world and is becoming a big threat to our freedoms and privacy.

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:15 pm
by RuralEngineer
I'm not sure if they're taking over the world, but Google has enormous influence in the advancement of technology and have shown that they have ZERO concern for the privacy of their customers.

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:04 am
by Reub
I understand that they are the 2nd biggest lobbyists in Washington and soon to become number one.

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:35 am
by dualstow
RuralEngineer wrote: I'm not sure if they're taking over the world, but Google has enormous influence in the advancement of technology and have shown that they have ZERO concern for the privacy of their customers.
Oh no, they have a substantial concern for our privacy. Unfortunately, it doesn't dovetail with our concerns.

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:30 pm
by Reub
They're already heavily implanted in our digital world and now they want to send drones over all of our houses too?

BTW, I've switched to Startpage.com as my search engine of choice as they say that they are the world's most private search engine.

https://www.startpage.com/

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:00 pm
by dualstow
Reub wrote:
BTW, I've switched to Startpage.com as my search engine of choice as they say that they are the world's most private search engine.

https://www.startpage.com/
I used duckduckgo for 5 minutes and then I learned about the heartbleed breach this week. NSA is out denying that they are exploiting it. I'm back to google anyway.

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:27 pm
by craigr
The heartbleed vulnerability primarily affects the server's private key as the biggest threat, so vendors are patching and generating new keys to be sure. So using a service like duckduckgo.com, startpage, etc. is not going to be an issue. The problem is likely already patched.

The reality is these agencies are collecting so much information I doubt they can effectively use most of it until well after the fact. They are drinking from the proverbial fire hose. Targeted individuals though are a different matter once you are on the radar screen. At that point they will know just about anything about you and your social connections, etc.

Even with the supposed expansion of "big data" storage and reduction mechanisms you still need a human to make sense of the pieces. That's always going to be a bottleneck.

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:19 pm
by dualstow
Makes sense.

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:52 pm
by Reub
craigr wrote: The heartbleed vulnerability primarily affects the server's private key as the biggest threat, so vendors are patching and generating new keys to be sure. So using a service like duckduckgo.com, startpage, etc. is not going to be an issue. The problem is likely already patched.

The reality is these agencies are collecting so much information I doubt they can effectively use most of it until well after the fact. They are drinking from the proverbial fire hose. Targeted individuals though are a different matter once you are on the radar screen. At that point they will know just about anything about you and your social connections, etc.

Even with the supposed expansion of "big data" storage and reduction mechanisms you still need a human to make sense of the pieces. That's always going to be a bottleneck.
I guess that if the next Snowden gives it to Putin he can make sense of it for us. ;)

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:22 pm
by Pointedstick
By chance, I just happened to delete my Google account today. Felt good. It's amazing how many services of theirs you can find yourself using over time.

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:08 am
by craigr
Pointedstick wrote: By chance, I just happened to delete my Google account today. Felt good. It's amazing how many services of theirs you can find yourself using over time.
Don't mean to be the bearer of bad news, but they don't delete anything ever!

Let's just say it's no longer visible to you, but it probably is not actually deleted... :(

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:15 am
by clacy
Alright, I need to find a new search engine.  I've been wanting to jump off the google bandwagon for some time anyway. 

What are people here using for search engines?

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:09 am
by Pointedstick
craigr wrote:
Pointedstick wrote: By chance, I just happened to delete my Google account today. Felt good. It's amazing how many services of theirs you can find yourself using over time.
Don't mean to be the bearer of bad news, but they don't delete anything ever!

Let's just say it's no longer visible to you, but it probably is not actually deleted... :(
Oh I figured that. But it's no temptation to add anything new to it. And eventually it may get deleted as part of routine clean-up. There's no real business reason to spend money keeping around information about non-customers.

clacy wrote: Alright, I need to find a new search engine.  I've been wanting to jump off the google bandwagon for some time anyway. 

What are people here using for search engines?
DuckDuckGo.

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:56 am
by l82start
clacy wrote: Alright, I need to find a new search engine.  I've been wanting to jump off the google bandwagon for some time anyway. 

What are people here using for search engines?
ixquick and startpage.... i tend to use ixquick more but they seem almost identical

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:57 am
by dualstow
Craig, do you think, post-heartbleed, we should be changing our account passwords, or should we wait for website admins to tell us to do so?

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:54 am
by Mountaineer
l82start wrote:
clacy wrote: Alright, I need to find a new search engine.  I've been wanting to jump off the google bandwagon for some time anyway. 

What are people here using for search engines?
ixquick and startpage.... i tend to use ixquick more but they seem almost identical
ixquick and startpage are the same thing according to the ixquick website.  https://ixquick.com/eng/company-background.html

... Mountaineer

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:20 am
by clacy
l82start wrote:
clacy wrote: Alright, I need to find a new search engine.  I've been wanting to jump off the google bandwagon for some time anyway. 

What are people here using for search engines?
ixquick and startpage.... i tend to use ixquick more but they seem almost identical
Wow, I've never even heard of these.  Thanks

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:22 am
by clacy
Now I just have to break the habit of typing " g - o - o" into my toolbar

Re: Google Buys Drone Maker Titan Aerospace

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:38 pm
by Mountaineer
clacy wrote: Now I just have to break the habit of typing " g - o - o" into my toolbar
Yep!  Depending on what browser you are using, there are a couple of extensions you may find useful:  Ghostery - allows you to block all kinds of tracking, AdBlock - blocks annoying ads, and WOT (web of trust) - indicates how much people trust the website for a variety of reasons, and Qualys Browser Check - examines your browser and extensions to determine if all are up to date.

... Mountaineer