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Bitcoin Instead Of Gold In PP?
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:37 pm
by Reub
As a non-holder of Bitcoin, except for the .05 BC that Marc graciously gifted me, I was struck by what the performance of the PP would have been this year if we had held 25% Bitcoin and no gold. Being that Bitcoin is up 7000% in a year I'm guessing that the total return would have been about 1700%! Is BC a fair substitute for gold? Is this the future of the Permanent Portfolio?
Re: Bitcoin Instead Of Gold In PP?
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:00 pm
by Gumby
From what I understand (and I could be wrong) the market for BTC is currently so small that any sale of a few thousand dollars will swing the price dramatically. Every time you rebalanced you'd probably cause a mini crash
But, again, that's just what I heard and could be wrong about that.
Also, the concept of the PP isn't to take risks and amass huge amounts of wealth. The PP is designed to protect you from any disaster, war or collapse and provide you with safety and peace of mind. A collapse of a power grid, for whatever reason, would instantly make the Bitcoins untradeable and a fairly useless currency in an emergency.
Re: Bitcoin Instead Of Gold In PP?
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:14 pm
by smurff
Gumby wrote:
A collapse of a power grid, for whatever reason, would instantly make the Bitcoins untradeable and a fairly useless currency in an emergency.
An important point to remember. It would seem obvious, but lots of obvious things are hard to grasp in the middle of a bubble.
Re: Bitcoin Instead Of Gold In PP?
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:29 pm
by Libertarian666
Reub wrote:
As a non-holder of Bitcoin, except for the .05 BC that Marc graciously gifted me, I was struck by what the performance of the PP would have been this year if we had held 25% Bitcoin and no gold. Being that Bitcoin is up 7000% in a year I'm guessing that the total return would have been about 1700%! Is BC a fair substitute for gold? Is this the future of the Permanent Portfolio?
How silly. Obviously the PP should be 100% bitcoin, because bitcoin went up 7000% in a year!
Re: Bitcoin Instead Of Gold In PP?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:00 am
by Reub
Exactly my point!

Re: Bitcoin Instead Of Gold In PP?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:18 am
by moda0306
Part of the reason I hold physical gold and physical cash is fear of counterparty risk. Since we barely know anything about bitcoin's ability to weather a real $hitstorm, I don't understand the idea that it replaces gold in the least. It's built, essentially, on purely on the idea that an algorithm that mimics scarcity can have intrinsic value because it's cool.
At least my US dollars act as a get out of jail free card

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And if you think about it, isn't our monetary system built on an algorithm as well?
* If unemployment rate - target unemployment rate > inflation rate - target inflation rate, then Ease Monetary Policy
* If unemployment rate - target unemployment rate < inflation rate - target inflation rate, then Tighten Monetary Policy
This is overly simplified, but for the most part, the fed hasn't verged too far away from this.
Re: Bitcoin Instead Of Gold In PP?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:58 am
by ns2
If you do buy bitcoins be sure to make a backup copy of your cryptographic key.
I don't know anything about them but is it really true if you lose it the money is gone?
If so, this guy is really an idiot since he works in IT and should have known better.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/11/ ... 5-million/
Re: Bitcoin Instead Of Gold In PP?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:25 pm
by Reub
I'm waiting for the day when there is a massive hacking of bitcoin and it all disappears into the ethernet....or somebody else's pocket.
Re: Bitcoin Instead Of Gold In PP?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:54 pm
by dualstow
Sounds like an absent-minded professor. Smart enough to write the mining code, but too careless to leave himself a note to keep the drive.
Poor guy. It's even worse than throwing out winning lotto tickets.