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Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:48 am
by Kshartle
Anyone have a favorite in their collection?
Sorry to the handgun owners...I think it's a separte topic (I don't own one but I am looking at several).
I own an 2012 AK-74 style converted SAIGA all black polymer, a 1937 Tula Mosin Nagant (of Enemy At The Gates fame) and a Yugo SKS.
Yeah...I hate communisim but I love their small arms. I think a rifle that can be learned in 15 minutes and stripped/cleaned in as much time is perfect. I like that they go bang every time no matter what.
I carried an M249 SAW, M16A2 with M203 gernade launcher and M4 for 4 years in the 25th ID. I love the accuracy of the AR/M16 platform...love it. The weapon is handy, light, easy to use and can definately hit a man-sized target at 300 meters with irons. I love the iron sights. I just wouldn't trust it if my life depended on it over the AK.
I like cheap mil surp bullets too. Anyone own or fire military rifles here and think they've got a good one(s)?
Re: Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:35 am
by Coffee
Ruger 10/22.
Re: Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:18 pm
by Kshartle
Coffee wrote:
Ruger 10/22.
Yeah I constantly hear about the merits of these but I've never fired one. What makes the ruger better than other 22s? Is it just less expensive?
What is it good for? Varmits? Target practice? See I think I'd rather just do target practice with what I would actually carry in an emergency (AK).
Re: Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:36 pm
by Coffee
Kshartle wrote:
Coffee wrote:
Ruger 10/22.
Yeah I constantly hear about the merits of these but I've never fired one. What makes the ruger better than other 22s? Is it just less expensive?
What is it good for? Varmits? Target practice? See I think I'd rather just do target practice with what I would actually carry in an emergency (AK).
Guns are tools. In an emergency, you may need to hunt small game or kill rodents. You can't do that with an AK. I love the AK platform. I've got three of them. But the 10/22 is a light, accurate rifle that is cheap to shoot. (Well, if you can find ammo that is!). It is extremely accurate and it's fun, fun, fun to shoot.
Re: Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:23 pm
by Bean
I am a pretty big fan of my ruger scout rifle. I would grab this one and go if I didn't know what is at the end of whatever path I am taking.
Hunting: Remington 700 in .308
Home Defense: The AR-15 I built from scratch
Plinking: 10/22
Old School: Henry 30-30 Lever
Gem of my collection: The Lakefield bolt 22 I learned on. (Now Savage Arms)
Re: Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:58 pm
by Pointedstick
I just love my 6-pound homebuilt AR-15. Shoots straight and true with almost no recoil to speak of for super-fast follow-up shots. My next project is getting it down to about 5.5 pounds.
If I was in the odd position of being rich and limited to only a single rifle, I think I would want a lightweight semi-auto .308, like a Browning BAR Shortrac or an AR-10. Such a gun would fill the roles of defense as well as hunting anything big in North America.
Re: Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:14 am
by Kshartle
I was debating between an AR and an AK chambered in 7.62
Since I've already got the SKS the AK wouldn't entail adding yet another caliber.
The argument for the 22 is compelling though and I could actually get my GF out there with it, work her up to the 7.62 x 54R that comes out the Mosin.
Re: Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:20 am
by Rien
Not in my collection (I live in the netherlands, guns are not allowed, well, at least very difficult)
I read about the dragunov recently, looks rather nice I think:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... _Rifle.jpg
Re: Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:20 am
by Kshartle
That looks like a Romanian PSL which is commonly confused for a Dragunov. Drags are rare and expensive, PSLs are not. They have a different operating system and are basically just an overgrown AK. I was considering picking up a PSL since thecan be had here with a scope for under $900. I've already got the ammo since it shoots the exact same thing as my 76 year old Mosin Nagant.
What does it take to purchase a firearm in the Netherlands? Is it just an expensive lisence?
Re: Guns...well..rifles
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:58 am
by Rien
Kshartle wrote:
What does it take to purchase a firearm in the Netherlands? Is it just an expensive lisence?
I am not 100% on the details, but it is something like this:
1) First you have to be a national gun club member for at least 1 year. In this year you are allowed to shoot air-guns only.
2) After a year you are allowed to shoot small caliber guns, but only those that are used in Olympic disciplines.
3) The year after that you are allowed to own a small caliber Olympic style gun.
4) The year after that you are allowed to own any caliber gun that is allowed access to any official competition in the Netherlands.
So if a non gun club person today wanted to own a Dragonuv, he would be facing at least a three years delay before he would be able to do so. And of course he would need a spotless history without a criminal or psychiatric past.