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The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:50 pm
by Reub
I know it's always our fault (our being civilized people) but that group of people who will go nameless (as Obama-types like to call them) just beheaded a British soldier with a machete in London. I'm sure that he did something wrong and does not indicate a bigger trend of any kind. After all, all religions have their terrorists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EROXP8JD ... e=youtu.be

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:52 pm
by Kriegsspiel
It's comforting to me that, according to the news report, police shot those pieces of shit at the scene.

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:53 pm
by moda0306
Kriegsspiel wrote: It's comforting to me that, according to the news report, police shot those pieces of shit at the scene.
I thought their police didn't carry guns in England...

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:54 pm
by Xan
Some of them do.  It took them 20 (that's TWENTY) minutes to get there.

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:19 pm
by Reub
Good thing the terrorists hung around.

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:20 pm
by murphy_p_t
bacon should be wrapped around them...after which aggressive dogs are set onto them

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:25 pm
by Reub
Are we sure that it wasn't workplace violence or that a Youtube video didn't cause it?

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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:37 pm
by Ad Orientem
moda0306 wrote:
Kriegsspiel wrote: It's comforting to me that, according to the news report, police shot those pieces of shit at the scene.
I thought their police didn't carry guns in England...
I read that there were a couple of unarmed (stick and whistle) cops who witnessed the attack but hung back and waited for armed back up.

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:45 pm
by Ad Orientem
Reub wrote: I know it's always our fault (our being civilized people) but that group of people who will go nameless (as Obama-types like to call them) just beheaded a British soldier with a machete in London. I'm sure that he did something wrong and does not indicate a bigger trend of any kind. After all, all religions have their terrorists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EROXP8JD ... e=youtu.be
Invade the world, invite the world. God bless the British Empire.

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:26 am
by Benko
Ad Orientem wrote: Invade the world, invite the world. God bless the British Empire.
My history is poor, but Britain hasn't really had an empire or invaded anyone for awhile has it?

Edit: and the fact that you are using anything to explain/justify a beheading speaks volumes.

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:28 am
by murphy_p_t
weren't they the primary component of the "Coalition of the Willing" to attack Iraq? or something like that?

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:36 am
by MediumTex
murphy_p_t wrote: weren't they the primary component of the "Coalition of the Willing" to attack Iraq? or something like that?
I assume the motivation to strike where they did was a lot simpler and had to do with the fact that the perps lived in the UK to begin with.

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:43 am
by murphy_p_t
MediumTex wrote:
murphy_p_t wrote: weren't they the primary component of the "Coalition of the Willing" to attack Iraq? or something like that?
I assume the motivation to strike where they did was a lot simpler and had to do with the fact that the perps lived in the UK to begin with.
agreed regards location.

I speculate that: Motivation = Islam

evidence:
-use of the traditional Muslim method to kill victims
-screams of "Allah Akbar"

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:52 am
by MediumTex
murphy_p_t wrote:
MediumTex wrote:
murphy_p_t wrote: weren't they the primary component of the "Coalition of the Willing" to attack Iraq? or something like that?
I assume the motivation to strike where they did was a lot simpler and had to do with the fact that the perps lived in the UK to begin with.
agreed regards location.

I speculate that: Motivation = Islam

evidence:
-use of the traditional Muslim method to kill victims
-screams of "Allah Akbar"
That's probably a pretty safe conclusion regarding motivation, similar to observing that a person is likely a Dallas Cowboys fan if he is wearing a Dallas Cowboys t-shirt and screaming "GOOOOOOOOOOO COWWWWWWWBOYYYYSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!"

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:46 pm
by Ad Orientem
Benko wrote:
Ad Orientem wrote: Invade the world, invite the world. God bless the British Empire.
My history is poor, but Britain hasn't really had an empire or invaded anyone for awhile has it?

Edit: and the fact that you are using anything to explain/justify a beheading speaks volumes.
Explain yes, justify no. I will offer a quote from a blogging friend with whom I often disagree, but I think he nailed this one.
I am not sure what else is to be expected when the West invades barbarian lands and then invites the barbarians here. Cameron is a pathetic sissy calling this "terror-related." No, Prime Minister, it's far worse than anything you and the rest of the Cathedral's blank slate adherents can imagine. It's just the sort of thing that barbaric primitives in thrall to a hostile creed are going to do when placed in an unarmed, passive society. The immigrants are what they are; they do not belong and never should have been invited. If there's to be outrage, it should be directed to the people who dream up these awful social engineering schemes.
Source.

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:56 pm
by Pointedstick

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:24 pm
by rocketdog
moda0306 wrote:
Kriegsspiel wrote: It's comforting to me that, according to the news report, police shot those pieces of shit at the scene.
I thought their police didn't carry guns in England...
The bobbies on foot patrol generally don't, but others do... and how!  Back before 9/11, I was on a train from London to the Midlands one night when our train made an unscheduled stop at a station not on our itinerary.  German Shepherds were pacing the platform, and next thing I knew a cop wearing body armor and carrying a military-style assault weapon came walking down the aisle! 

The train was sparsely populated, so I looked at the cop with a raised eyebrow in concern. 

"Evening sir" was all he said as he passed me by.  A few minutes later we were on our way again.  I never did find out what that was all about!  :o

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:27 pm
by rocketdog
murphy_p_t wrote: I speculate that: Motivation = Islam

evidence:
-screams of "Allah Akbar"
Don't you mean "Admiral Ackbar?"  Oh, wait...

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 5:22 pm
by Benko
Ad Orientem wrote: Explain yes, justify no. I will offer a quote from a blogging friend with whom I often disagree, but I think he nailed this one.Source.
1. I read the below earlier today and though it harsh/did not agree with her, but you make her point for her:

MICHELLE MALKIN: British progressives "brought it on themselves in some ways because of lax deportation policies and an unwillingness to screen out and profile Islamic militants who are now doing this in a homegrown manner."

2.  The terrorists were in their 20s: perhaps the islamic equivalent of Obamas bomb throwing friends and the occupy wall street gang (and you? meaning perhaps you are an angry young man or were recently) with the addition that they have the moral values  that beheading people was OK.

3. I passed through Schipol airport (amsterdam) over 15 years ago and still remember officers carrying oozis(sp?) machine pistols of some sort.  I'll bet people try less shit in their presence.

4. And I really should say more about your basic point about Britain "invading" etc but don't have time for that now.

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:31 pm
by Ad Orientem
Benko wrote:
Ad Orientem wrote: Explain yes, justify no. I will offer a quote from a blogging friend with whom I often disagree, but I think he nailed this one.Source.
1. I read the below earlier today and though it harsh/did not agree with her, but you make her point for her:

MICHELLE MALKIN: British progressives "brought it on themselves in some ways because of lax deportation policies and an unwillingness to screen out and profile Islamic militants who are now doing this in a homegrown manner."

2.  The terrorists were in their 20s: perhaps the islamic equivalent of Obamas bomb throwing friends and the occupy wall street gang (and you? meaning perhaps you are an angry young man or were recently) with the addition that they have the moral values  that beheading people was OK.

3. I passed through Schipol airport (amsterdam) over 15 years ago and still remember officers carrying oozis(sp?) machine pistols of some sort.  I'll bet people try less shit in their presence.

4. And I really should say more about your basic point about Britain "invading" etc but don't have time for that now.
It's been a long time since I was a young man. But I vaguely recall that back in those days I was a fierce neo-con. Ah the folly of misguided youth... mea culp mea culp mea maxima culpa.

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:40 pm
by Reub
Just as in Boston, the Islamic terrorists were known to the authorities. And they still were not stopped. We certainly need to do a better job of dealing with these animals when they become known to us.

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 8:39 pm
by Kriegsspiel
Simonjester wrote: i read some interesting remarks about the British leaderships cognitive dissidence with regards to Islamist, it was pointing out that if these young head choppers (terrorists) had been in Syria or Lebanon they would be receiving arms from the very same British government that is speaking out against them today, and the head chopping they did over there would never get mentioned...
Speaking of cognitive dissonance, I wonder if the Al-Shabaab twitter person (twit?) understands that the Brits (and Americans) AREN'T killing all of their women and children.  Other Muslims are.  Wait, the other Muslims... Al-Shabaab!  Now I see...

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:28 am
by Jan Van
Benko wrote:3. I passed through Schipol airport (amsterdam) over 15 years ago and still remember officers carrying oozis(sp?) machine pistols of some sort.  I'll bet people try less shit in their presence.
Yes, in the airport. They still carry Uzis. But not on the streets. And this soldier wasn't attacked in an airport...

These guys were on the radar of MI5, so i don't kow what to make of "an unwillingness to screen out and profile Islamic militants who are now doing this in a homegrown manner".

I did not see these guys walk around with any "we're the 99%" signs, so where does Occupy even enter the picture here? Except that occupy was infiltrated and under close scrutiny of MI5's equivalent here? Can't remember any slayings perpetrated by Occupy either.

Luckily for the people around they were only after police and soldiers.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wo ... eo-1907772

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:04 am
by rocketdog
Benko wrote: 3. I passed through Schipol airport (amsterdam) over 15 years ago and still remember officers carrying oozis(sp?) machine pistols of some sort.  I'll bet people try less shit in their presence.
Those guns were probably not loaded.  Remember after 9/11 and all the U.S. airports had National Guardsmen brandishing assault weapons at the security checkpoints?  Yeah, those weren't loaded either. 

Re: The Brits Must have Pissed Off The Islamists Today

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:15 pm
by Kriegsspiel
Like the Marine guards at the Beirut embassy prior to the bombing, IIRC.