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Primer

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:35 pm
by AdamA
Anyone ever seen the movie Primer?

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:23 am
by MediumTex
No.

Can you provide a primer?

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:37 am
by Pointedstick
MediumTex wrote: No.

Can you provide a primer?
http://instantrimshot.com/

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:26 am
by Kriegsspiel
Pointedstick wrote:
MediumTex wrote: No.

Can you provide a primer?
http://instantrimshot.com/
I read that as instanttrimshot.com.

...thought it was going to be a porn site.

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:41 am
by Pointedstick
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Pointedstick wrote:
MediumTex wrote: No.

Can you provide a primer?
http://instantrimshot.com/
I read that as instanttrimshot.com.

...thought it was going to be a porn site.
http://sadtrombone.com/

I got a million of 'em!

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:34 pm
by dualstow
Never heard of the film but I'm lovin' this easy access to free sound effects!  ;D

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:44 pm
by Pointedstick
dualstow wrote: Never heard of the film but I'm lovin' this easy access to free sound effects!  ;D
My two other favorites are
http://inception.davepedu.com/

and
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

These get a surprising amount of play at the office, in addition to the best Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboard: http://www.realmofdarkness.net/pc/sb/arnold/50

Okay, I'm done hijacking this thread now!

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:05 pm
by AdamA
From Wikipedia:

Primer is a 2004 American science fiction drama film about the accidental discovery of a means of time travel. The film was written, directed, and produced by Shane Carruth and was completed on a budget of $7,000.[2] Carruth graduated from college with a degree in mathematics and is a former engineer.[3] Primer is of note for its extremely low budget, experimental plot structure, philosophical implications, and complex technical dialogue, which Carruth chose not to simplify for the sake of his audience. One reviewer said that "anybody who claims he fully understands what's going on in Primer after seeing it just once is either a savant or a liar."[4] The film collected the Grand Jury Prize at Sundance in 2004 before securing a limited release in the United States, and has since gained a cult following

It's a great movie, IMO, but the ending is maddening.  Was just wondering if anyone else had seen it and had opinions. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CC60HJvZRE

Pointedstick wrote: Okay, I'm done hijacking this thread now!
That's okay...it hadn't picked up much steam.  : )

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:09 pm
by MediumTex
Does it stream on Netflix?

Edit:  Yes, it does.

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:18 pm
by MediumTex
Watching it now.

I'm already impressed with what they did with such a tiny budget.

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:32 pm
by AdamA
MediumTex wrote: Watching it now.

I'm already impressed with what they did with such a tiny budget.
Curious to know what you think about it.  The dialogue is great, IMO.

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:01 pm
by l82start
i saw it a long time ago so i don't remember it well, i would have to re-watch it to give a better review, but i remember it as having very well done "twisty time travel story". it is one of my favorite genres, and one that big budget movies have a hard time doing right, they tend to loose the sci-fi "realty's" of time travel in favor of special effects and explosions/action, this one doesn't....

"Timecrimes"  is another well done fairly low budget movie in the same vein http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480669/synopsis

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:41 pm
by MediumTex
I think that I may have a double who hasn't yet seen the film.  I am frantically trying to figure out a way to go back in time 18 hours or so and delete this thread before anyone sees it and tell AdamA that such threads violate a forum policy that I will put into place right before I PM him.

That was a really good film.

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:38 pm
by AdamA
MediumTex wrote: I think that I may have a double who hasn't yet seen the film.  I am frantically trying to figure out a way to go back in time 18 hours or so and delete this thread before anyone sees it and tell AdamA that such threads violate a forum policy that I will put into place right before I PM him.

That was a really good film.
Glad you liked it.  Did you find the last quarter of the movie a bit hard to understand?

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:59 pm
by SteveGo
That movie was made in North Dallas. The Richardson Public library, and UTD feature prominently in location shots.

I recently watched it again.

Some of the fan-folk have constructed complex charts and graphs of all the different time lines.

It provides a much more satisfying treatment of closed time-like loops than the TV series Fringe. Fringe ended up in a self contradicting muddle. I watched Fringe mainly to see Anna Torv. The acting was quite good, though, as was the dialog.

I guess it never occurred to the writers of Fringe that if the Watchers never came, no one would have saved Peter from drowning as a boy, thus no happy ending with Olivia, Peter, and baby Etta.

Re: Primer

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:51 am
by MediumTex
AdamA wrote:
MediumTex wrote: I think that I may have a double who hasn't yet seen the film.  I am frantically trying to figure out a way to go back in time 18 hours or so and delete this thread before anyone sees it and tell AdamA that such threads violate a forum policy that I will put into place right before I PM him.

That was a really good film.
Glad you liked it.  Did you find the last quarter of the movie a bit hard to understand?
More than the story's great writing and great acting, I thought that the overall effect the movie had was pretty cool in creating what felt for a few hours like a loosened grip on reality and the possibilities that exist beyond this tight wrapper of time and space that we inhabit.

By the time I went to bed last night, though, the time/space wrapper felt like it was once again snugly encasing me.

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:29 pm
by iwealth
I realize this is an old thread, but I just watched this movie last night. And again this morning. And will probably watch it for a 3rd time tomorrow. What a mind-bender. Figured I'd come here and search for "primer" to see if it had been discussed. Not surprised it has its own thread.

Naturally I turned to the internet to find some interpretations and analysis of the plot and stumbled upon a great summary that I'd not read until you've watched the movie at least once: http://qntm.org/primer

Anyhoo, I thought I'd resurrect this thread in case anyone was looking for an excellent way to spend a spare 77 minutes. It does not currently stream on Netflix US, but if you use one of the region switchers to access European Netflix content, you'll find it there. It's also streaming on Hulu Plus but without subtitles (which I found extremely helpful).

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:11 pm
by AdamA
iwealth wrote: I realize this is an old thread, but I just watched this movie last night.
I read a review about this movie a while back stating that no one, except possibly Shane Caruth understands it completely...but I still love it.  I just love the way they just kind of stumble upon the invention.

I can watch it over and over.

Re: Primer

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:19 pm
by Benko
This is supposed to be a very cool movie but have not watched it yet.

I did stumble on a diagram on the web someone had created to help understand the temporal crazyness.

Thanks for the reminder of this film.  Been meaning to watch it for awhile.