PP Math
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:10 am
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There are a huge risks with DM, you are outsourcing the responsibility so to speak. There is the risk of the proprietary formula not working, there is the risk of the manager etc. If one is attracted to black-box mechanical systems then the best approach is to do it yourself and learn how to program. It's a huge task but one that might remove dependence on mysterious formulas presented by others. I also disagree with the above characterization of the PP. The PP is a well balanced mechanical system that protects one from third party risk and hence black swan events while all along returning decent returns.At present I'm attracted towards two thirds PP with the 'stock' invested in Decision Moose. For the other Variable Portfolio third Decision Moose also seems a reasonable choice. Whilst DM is relative strength based (5 months RS seems to be a reasonable proxy), it also appears to use a trailing 10% stop loss control. Historically its done very well, but over more recent years much less so (and hence the appeal to me).
For others however being a stuck-in-the-mud and implementing the PP alone and rigidly in the conventional manner may very well be the best choice.
I'm a DM subscriber and frankly I like the idea less and less.Clive wrote: At present I'm attracted towards two thirds PP with the 'stock' invested in Decision Moose. For the other Variable Portfolio third Decision Moose also seems a reasonable choice. Whilst DM is relative strength based (5 months RS seems to be a reasonable proxy), it also appears to use a trailing 10% stop loss control. Historically its done very well, but over more recent years much less so (and hence the appeal to me).
Can you elaborate a bit on that, do you mean between the value and growth?selecting the 5 month relative strongest
Funny, when I read this I though "I have to ask Clive about Magic Formula"...Clive wrote:I'm more the opposite (odd) in that I'm more attracted to bargains and look more deeply at investments that haven't performed well in anticipation that that might turn around. More of a contrarian investor character I guess.
Did you mean "Allocate half of funds to a VP"?Clive wrote: Allocate a third of funds to a VP that holds such a DM/MF blend, and the other half to a PP...
At 1% fees I find them a bit too expensive, though it includes all trading. But trading could be pretty cheap if you'd use for example www.lightspeed.com (100 shares for $0.40)...I'd be inclined however towards throwing it at being professionally managed on my behalf i.e. http://info.formulainvesting.com/results/