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Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:54 am
by TripleB
I'm bullish on apartment rental REITs. Not general REITs that have business RE and other RE in them too. Specifically apartment rentals only.
The housing market sucks, and will continue to suck for a long time. The average middle-class family will have $100k in student loan debts by age 30 and will not be buying homes.
People age 35+ with no student loans have likely been bit hard by the recent housing crash and are unlikely to be willing to go back in.
I forsee apartment rentals being the new future. Already in lots of areas there are 5% or less vacancy rating, which is extremely low.
I look at this as a 5 to 10 year position. REITs are volatile and leveraged so in the short term will be unpredictable.
I also see interest rates rising in 5 to 10 years so REITs who have mortgages on property locked away now, will be at an advantage. How do you know if the REIT has a "good" mortgage rate on their properties? Don't need to know. Simply by virtue of buying them now, while interest rates are low, means that the market has valued the REIT appropriately to current interest rates.
In other words, if one REIT has shitty 6% interest rate mortgages outstanding, and the current market is 4%, then that REIT will have their stock price reduced to compensate, and you are buying in at the "reduced" stock price. Of course many other factors apply to the stock price.
iShares has a ETF that focused on "residential renting" REITs... REZ. In it, the company Public Storage makes up 11%. I don't see the connection and will instead buy a few individual REITs from within this ETF.
I believe Apartment REITs have a floor to them, if you diversify appropriately. Rent prices cannot drop below a certain threshold because at some point if the economy tanks in a big way, everyone will be on Section 8 housing, and there's a minimum to what the REITs to collect, that is above $0. The US government will not let the REITs collapse because then they'd have to deal with the headache of section 8 renters. I don't mean the government will bail out individual REITs, but I mean they are likely to not artificially push section 8 rents down so low that the REITs are forced to go out of business.
Of course, since REITs are leveraged, they could drop to $0 by basis of being too far underwater.
I plan to be a renter for a long time, so I look at apartment REITs as a hedge against rising apartment rental costs.
I'm currently researching options for a VP play.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:24 am
by Ad Orientem
I concur with your bullish sentiment on rental property. Another advantage to rental property is that it provides steady income. And unlike fixed income securities rents can rise with inflation. I like to think of it as an adjustable rate bond.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:58 am
by Storm
I agree with this. All that great looking data released a couple weeks ago on new housing starts? They were for multi-unit dwellings (apartments). It's funny how the mainstream media picks it up and says "the housing crisis is over! New housing starts are way up!" while failing to report that single family home starts are down, but apartments are way up. This is a sign that the housing crisis is nowhere near over. More foreclosures will just push prices down even more, causing more foreclosures. The Fed and congress are doing everything they can to try to keep reflating this bubble and that just makes it take longer to unwind. Meanwhile, we have baby boomers retiring, wanting to downsize and an apartment where the landlord handles all repairs is probably very appealing to someone that doesn't need a 5 bedroom house any more. All of these things mean the next decade could be very bullish for residential REITs.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:09 pm
by moda0306
I still think it's too risky for somebody who is anything but very above water on their home to invest in REIT's. I think most renters and very solid-balance-sheet homeowners could consider it an option in a tax-deferred account (high dividend rates).
I know the rental and home market aren't in lockstep by any means, but I think as these McMansions start emptying of 25 year old sons/daughters the ability to rent out a basement for great rates is going to start to look extremely attractive for a lot of underwater homeowners.
Maybe it's just from a youngish guy living in a bigger home than he needs with no kids, but I'm currently playing the rental market by 1) owning a home, and 2) renting out the lower-level.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:51 pm
by Maestro G
iShares has a ETF that focused on "residential renting" REITs... REZ. In it, the company Public Storage makes up 11%. I don't see the connection and will instead buy a few individual REITs from within this ETF.
Hi Triple B,
A very interesting idea and, btw, one of A. Gary Shillings investment recommendations in his new book
"The Age of Deleveraging." He suggests direct ownership or REIT stocks as well. BTW, he also is (and has been for a long time) bullish on LT Treasuries/ZEROES, USD, Dividend paying stocks and other income producing investments, North American energy, consumer staples, health care and small luxury items.
His investments to avoid: Japan/emerging markets/European: stocks and bonds; commodities, Commercial REITS; junk securities;conventional builders; big ticket consumer purchases; collectibles and banks among others.
Rather PPish actually. I suspect the high allocation to Public Storage in REZ must follow the logic that most renters have too much "stuff" for their apartments and have to put it and keep it somewhere year after year. Not a wide moat, but PS is probably the leader here. REZ still might be a very convenient, diversified and relatively cost effective way to "play" this.
Maestro G
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:58 pm
by Storm
moda0306 wrote:
I still think it's too risky for somebody who is anything but very above water on their home to invest in REIT's. I think most renters and very solid-balance-sheet homeowners could consider it an option in a tax-deferred account (high dividend rates).
Moda, wouldn't it be a nice hedge for excessive single family home leverage? If the economy improves, your house value goes up and you make some equity on your mortgage. If the economy deteriorates further, residential REITs go up as more people are forced out of their homes and into apartments.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:08 pm
by moda0306
Storm,
I don't really think apartments SHOULD be filling up. I think there is housing capacity, and people needing more cash flow... to me that means it will settle out to lowering rental rates and weak REIT growth.
I'm surprised vacancies are so low and rents are so high. I was pleasantly surprised by how much rent I could get for renting my lower-level out to someone.
Houses and rental complexes may be alternatives to each other, but I think both are sorta "same sh!t, different pile" right now.
As these unfilled homes start looking for renters for cash flow (if they even do... it's my prediction they will), it will be a continuous pressure release valve on rental rates.
Thinking about it a different way... if you take millions of US households consisting of over-indebted under-educated/skilled populace, reduce their over-leveraged, over-sized home value by 25% over a few years, reduce the value of someone's 401(k) 10% over a few years, and increase their chances of losing a job considerably, not to mention give them a kid or two who can't find work out of college, and I think what you have is a recipe for lots of people trying to get by by renting their home's capacity out when they never would have considered it before.
Just my analysis.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:18 pm
by Storm
Edit: I don't think most of the vacant excess inventory will even be available for rent. Foreclosed people can't rent their homes, and banks don't want to be landlords.
Housing market declines historically usually result in an increasing amount of renters. The reason is simple - there might be tons of vacant homes, but for a number of reasons people don't want to buy them:
- A lot of people have poor credit after going through foreclosure and can't qualify for a mortgage for at least a few years.
- A lot of people don't want to catch a falling knife and buy a house when prices continue to fall.
- A lot of the excess inventory are badly damaged homes that need to be either completely torn down and rebuilt or gutted and remodeled. Foreclosure homes are usually trashed and stripped before the owners leave.
- There are feedback loops involved where foreclosures and shadow inventory further depress the market, causing more foreclosures as people walk away from their homes, which creates a vicious cycle. You need people to feel confident in the economy and confident in their jobs, as well as confident in the fact that house prices will rise, before they are willing to invest in the market.
There are any number of reasons why the market will continue to drive lower. 1 in 9 mortgages in the US is delinquent. 1 in 9! How many of those people do you think will have to leave their homes? I would bet almost all of them. You might think house prices are at the bottom, but compare them to rents and you will see what the bottom really is.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:39 pm
by moda0306
Good points Storm.
I totally agree on your points about foreclosed homes (I was thinking more about homeowners still in their homes)... In a weird, freakish way, is maybe these homes deteriorating a bullish sign for the housing markets mostly free of foreclosed homes blighting the neighborhood?
If you allow 1/9 of the US single-family home and duplex supply to go into disrepair, shouldn't the endgame be the remaining homes being worth more, as you've basically taken 1/9th of the homes and turned them to garbage, empty lots, etc... aka, took 1/9 of the supply off of the market.
Especially if you consider the fact that most of these 1/9th of homes tend to cluster together, leaving the majority of neighborhoods pretty "clean."
It's like if 1/9th of all the gold in the world was discovered to have been fool's gold, the value of the remaining gold coins would spike a decent amount.
Maybe that's the hidden destructo-keynesian "solution" our politicians have in mind.... make banks hold onto the houses until they're all trash... sure sells better than actually bulldosing homes.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:00 pm
by Storm
Yes, I would agree that if you destroyed 1/9th the inventory, the supply would be lower and demand would cause prices to increase, but I just don't see that destruction happening right away. The distressed properties will sit on the market for a while at inflated prices, with no buyers. The banks don't want to destroy them because they would have to take the loss on their books.
What could probably be done would be to start an FDR-style government lending program to keep people in their homes, rewrite home mortgages at lower principals and rates, and help to reverse the course. Some interesting lessons from history are to be had in the way FDR handled the housing crisis:
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/3 ... using.html
Some excerpts:
1. What was important was the physical home and the homeowners—the families—who occupied dwellings, not the monetary values of either the property or financial paper that secured it. The financial paper and the speculation around it were crushing both the home and the homeowner; balance had to be restored, and the speculative, inflated values of mortgages written down.[3]
2. The government would not bail out the old mortgages, but would instead move to take pressure off the homeowner, by underwriting and insuring new mortgages issued at low rates appropriate to such Federally insured paper. This would take pressure off the banks and halt the foreclosures.[4]
3. Credit is what makes the housing sector go, and the community-based credit-issuance system of the S&Ls as dedicated lenders for home mortgages had been destroyed by allowing the predator commercial banks into the henhouse. The commercial banks had to be thrown out of the market and kept out, while a Federally regulated and insured S&L system had to be reborn and expanded.
4. This reform of housing credit had to be accomplished in the context of an overall government-directed reform and control of the credit markets and banking. Only the government could force this reorganization; to assume that the banks would, of their own free will, do it themselves, was ludicrous. In their world, the people with power and money, keep their money and steal from anyone they can; that is why they would, sooner or later, once again destroy the thrifts, unless the government prevented it.
Every loan situation was handled by the HOLC on an individual basis, with its agents making personal visits and helping clients organize their lives. Acting from the perspective that the only real basis for repayment came from the ability of the client and his family to survive and prosper, the agents used their wide discretionary powers to help clients find work, to collect insurance claims and pensions, to attract tenants for rentals, to qualify for public assistance, and even to locate foster children that could be taken in for a fee.
Most HOLC mortgages were offered at the then-unheard-of rate of 5% or less, up to 80% of the assessed value, which often meant rewriting loans for more than the orginal amount of the imperiled loans. They were directed mostly at single-family homes (although technically, its loans were available to units housing up to four families), with values under $20,000.[9]
One year after it opened for business, the HOLC, which was allocated $200 million by Congress as start-up capital, with the authority to issue $2 billion in government-backed, tax-exempt bonds, received applications from 40% of all mortgage holders, and accepted half of them. As FDR had intended, the main beneficiaries of HOLC activity were people with incomes of between $50 and $150 per month—people who, had they been left to the private market, would have lost their homes. By establishing that government loan assistance must go to the people who needed it the most, and not to those deemed "good risks" by insurance companies and commercial bankers, the HOLC helped FDR re-establish the banking principles that he had seen the S&L community bankers practice to great effect.[10]
Despite being widely criticized by Wall Street, the HOLC remains a remarkable success story. Its loans, including mortgages which Wall Street bankers thought unwritable, had the same minimal failure rate as the "prime rate" loans issued by those banks to its best customers.
Now, we see how and why it was destroyed:
Wall Street never accepted, nor could it ever accept the principle that the Federal government could create and supervise a dedicated housing lending system. However, with FDR's great popularity, while he was alive the bankers were reduced to carping on the sidelines, and criticism of the occasionally inefficient administration of what were generally popular programs.
It is clear from initiatives taken towards the end of World War II—such as the "Economic Bill of Rights," which identified the right to decent, affordable housing as a basic human right, and the "GI Bill of Rights," which authorized the provision of funds to make homeownership more accessible to returning servicemen and women by offering a VHA-administered program that would subsidize and reduce down payments on new home purchases—that Roosevelt remained committed to using government-directed credit to expand housing opportunity. However, while the VHA program went forward and programs for public housing committed to before FDR's death were fulfilled, no expansion took place.
FDR's legacy remained the dedicated credit mortgage system, anchored by the S&Ls; it was that system that Wall Street targetted, becoming ever more relentless as the time and emotional distance from the New Deal and the Great Depression grew. For example, there was widespread belief in the widely circulated charge, more recently thoroughly discredited, that the HOLC, and indirectly, the S&L mortgage system, were responsible for racially inspired lending that red-lined and destroyed America's inner cities.<[13]
By the late 1960s, despite its great success, the final assault on the S&L system was launched, aimed at its destruction. The first, small but significant step, was taken when the Johnson Administration's Comptroller General required the Bureau of the Budget to count the scores of billions of dollars of mortgages held by Fannie Mae as a government expense and liability, rather than an asset; this, despite the fact that failure rates on these loans were minuscule. The action immediately ballooned the Federal budget deficit in the middle of Johnson Administration's escalation of the Vietnam War. The President's advisors urged him to spin off Fannie Mae as a government-sponsored quasi-priviate entity, owned by shareholders, and with a small but symbolic line of credit direct from the U.S. Treasury. This set Fannie Mae, which could now lend to any mortgage lender/broker, effectively in competition with the S&Ls that it had been created to serve.
Under the Nixon Administration, this split-off of what had been a dedicated re-lending agency for the S&Ls, into a private competitor for the same market, was formalized, and in 1972, a Milton Friedman-inspired scheme created a new re-lending agency, the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, or as it is more commonly known, "Freddie Mac." The Friedmanite new wrinkle to the process is that "Freddie" was allowed to purchase loans and resell them in the markets, thus opening the housing lending market to "securitization."[14]
Fannie and Freddie soon supplanted the S&Ls as the principal mortgage lenders, as funding mortgages through loosely regulated mortgage brokers became the "quick and dirty" route to mortgage lending, rather than trying to mobilize deposits, as the highly regulated S&Ls did. Where the S&Ls long-term-fixed-rate, government-insured mortgages were once the "gold standard" of bank assets, the S&Ls soon found themselves in a deliberately set up competitive vice, in which their assets were declared by an insane market to be liabilities. When interest rates fell, borrowers refinanced their mortgages with the cutthroat low-rate lenders, taking assets away from the S&Ls; when interest rates rose, S&L depositors demanded higher rates or dividends on their money, threatening to take, and often taking their money elsewhere; to keep depositors, the S&Ls now paid more money out than they were taking in on their mortgages—a surefire ticket to banking oblivion.
Starting in the mid- to late-1970s, the cry came up for the total dismantling of the now "obsolete" S&L dedicated lending system, including in the Fred Hirsch book for the Council on Foreign Relation's "1980s Project," which included the end of the S&L system as part of its proposed "controlled disintegration" of the financial system. The new Fed chairman Paul Volcker, implementing the Hirch thesis, jacked up interest rates to stratospheric levels in excess of 20%, and the S&Ls now were induced to demand the end to the legislation that made them different from other banks, thus asking for their own ultimate extinction.[15] With support from many S&Ls, the Congress passed the 1980 Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act, which laid out steps towards the total elimination controls on interest rates that banks and S&Ls could pay, and authorized S&Ls to take on checking accounts: FDR's dedicated lending system had been kicked to the side of the road, soon to become banking "road kill."
Deregulated, and now in competition with Wall Street's banks and others, the S&Ls soon became insolvent. Wall Street moved in for the kill by kicking open the doors of the S&L industry to some of the more sleazy members of the banking profession, while stuffing down the throats of the desperate S&Ls, high-yield financial "toxic waste" such as junk bonds and speculative real estate developments. The FHLBB, now under the control of Heritage Foundation-type deregulators, sanctioned by the Garn-St. Germain Act, allowed for accounting shenanigans that avoided the recognition of losses, and allowed for the wild expansion of asset bases even as the S&Ls plunged deeper into insolvency. New sleaze-balls and outright crooks borrowed money to purchase bankrupt S&L charters, thinking that the Federal guarantees on what remained of their mortgage base and accounts meant, no matter what mess these crooks created, that the government would bail them out.
While the most noxious of these crooks were sent to jail, this amounted to a coverup of what had actually happened—a vendetta against President Roosevelt's S&L home-lending system and its principle of regulated, dedicated lending, had destroyed a workable system. All that remained was for its carcass to be sold off, with taxpayer help, to the banks who had let loose this destruction. That was handled through the so-called Resolution Trust Corporation, following a script written for it in 1985 by the Heritage Foundation to put the obsolete S&Ls out of their misery.[16]
By 1987, with the S&Ls at death's door, the way was cleared for the new Fed chairman, Ayn Rand cultist Alan Greenspan, to unleash the greatest debt-farming scheme in history, using mortgage-backed bundled securities to flood the housing market with wave upon wave of speculative credit, jacking up the price of housing, and creating the housing bubble which is now collapsing. None of that would have been possible in the regulated climate for housing and the dedicated lending system created by FDR.[17]
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:02 pm
by Storm
Sorry, I kind of went off on a tangent there, but I just wanted to show the excessive steps necessary to keep people in homes.
After all, homes that don't have residents quickly deteriorate and in a few short years need to be torn down completely. FDR recognized this and did everything he could to keep people in homes, writing down principal and interest and insuring it with the full backing of the US government. Wall Street could never live with the system he created so they destroyed it and look what happened.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:39 pm
by moda0306
I think my problem with REITs might be how I got burned with a rental I bought with my dad in 2003... well not really burned, as I had a few years of home-price upside before the collapse, but we saw the housing/debt crisis for what it was... we saw all the debt and McMansions... thought we knew the monster, but thought by buying a small, modest, but nice old home would be playing the "right end of the market."
Especially since it was in a nice part of a college rental neighborhood... usually an oxymoron.
Well the market swallowed our house too. Turns out the monster was a bit more wide-spread than we really calculated. We didn't do too horribly... we walked away with little less than what we paid... but I try not to make too simple of assessments on what is part of the housing market vs what's a counter to it.
This is kind of why I loved (still do to this day) long-term bonds... they are almost the antithesis of private economic growth, and the bonds that back up that growth (with all the default risk and callability that implies). In fact, part of me thinks that people from poor families, dependent almost solely on employment, should almost consider dropping stocks from their PP... basically using their savings as a bit of a hedge against the likelihood of future employment... yes, they might lose out some, but that will mean they had a job the whole time (likely) and were able to fully fund their Stock-free PP.
I'm not really bearish on apartments so much as I think millions of young Americans who bought a bit too much house in 2003-2009 are going to look to rent out their basements, like I do. Until my balance sheet gets into a comfort zone, I'm keeping it that way. I think rents should be lower with that consideration, along with the fact that our graduates with Communication Studies degrees are going to be just trickling out of their own parents' basements over the coming years, IMO. I simply think there are too many basements out there of scared homeowners for them not to soak up whatever college students are entering the Dominos Pizza workforce.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:53 pm
by melveyr
One thing that is interesting about REITs is the above average debt to equity that they have relative to the rest of the market.
To me this is unattractive because I like to use bonds as a counter-balance to risk. With REITs, you essentially have a negative counter-balance because having debt is like being "short" bonds. Something to think about.
Maybe when constructing your custom index it could make sense to avoid trusts that have a debt to equity over 1? This fits with your theme of economic weakness, and it doesn't negate any bond exposure you have in other parts of your portfolio (like your PP).
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:02 pm
by moda0306
melvyer,
Great point.
To put it another way, when looking at the "return" on a rental property that you, say, put 20% down on with a 30 year mortgage, rents (revenues) only have to adjust a little bit to drastically change your earnings yield. This is one thing you don't really absorb when seeing a 7% yield on your google ticker page, and then compare that to the measly 3% of TLT.
Think of it... your investment in a REIT is essentially that 20% down. 7% returns might look great, but, all things being equal, if rents drop 5%, that means way more than 5% in lowered net earnings for the investor.
So keep in mind that those yields are built on a lot of leverage, not a solid hard-asset foundation, and by no means does it take a large adjustment to rents to wipe out the original net income you thought you'd be realizing on the REIT.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:55 pm
by TripleB
I made my move today and put a chunk of VP money into EQR. I looked through several apartment REITs and decided this was the one I wanted to start with.
The 10-Ks of some I researched were ridiculous. One had most of their properties in Michigan. Another had a subsidiary that served general contractor functions to build new apartments.
EQR looked solid from a business operations perspective. I didn't do a full financial analysis from the 10-K because there's enough volume that I believe the market has done it for me, and the stock is efficiently priced. Also, I don't have I-Banking experience so I can't perform such analysis well.
My VP is currently:
30% EQR
30% BRK.B (Berkshire Hathaway)
10% VNQ (Vanguard's REIT Fund)
30% High Yield FDIC insured Savings
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:55 am
by MachineGhost
Great choice. EQR is the grandaddy of residential REITs run by Sam Zell before he sold out at the top back in 2007.
MG
TripleB wrote:
I made my move today and put a chunk of VP money into EQR. I looked through several apartment REITs and decided this was the one I wanted to start with.
The 10-Ks of some I researched were ridiculous. One had most of their properties in Michigan. Another had a subsidiary that served general contractor functions to build new apartments.
EQR looked solid from a business operations perspective. I didn't do a full financial analysis from the 10-K because there's enough volume that I believe the market has done it for me, and the stock is efficiently priced. Also, I don't have I-Banking experience so I can't perform such analysis well.
My VP is currently:
30% EQR
30% BRK.B (Berkshire Hathaway)
10% VNQ (Vanguard's REIT Fund)
30% High Yield FDIC insured Savings
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:40 pm
by moda0306
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, but looking at the income statement of EQR, it appears they are obtaining $270 of net income for every $1,996 in revenues (aka, rents). See link.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=EQR+Inc ... ent&annual
If this deleveraging process begins to take its toll on rents (due to the opportunities afforded by homeowners with too much house and too little money to keep kids living at home, or take on renters), then let's assume for a second that rents drop 5%... I don't think this is unreasonable to presume could happen.
A 5% drop from $1,996 would bring it down about $100, wiping out 37% of your distributable income, all other things being equal. It appears they're leveraged at an interest rate of about 4.8% into about 2/3's of the book value of their building. If their net income drops 37%, that value of the building (if that's even the FMV) could drop into a zone where securing cheaper financing isn't possible. The self fulfilling nature of deleveraging crisis could even hit the value of highly leveraged apartment complexes.
Regardless of any self-fulfilling crises that could hit this fund (I really don't see that happening), you're still investing in something where 13.5% of rents collected are all you're walking away with in earnings, and that leaves it extremely exposed to lowering rental rates.
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:48 pm
by ngcpa
moda0306 wrote:
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, but looking at the income statement of EQR, it appears they are obtaining $270 of net income for every $1,996 in revenues (aka, rents). See link.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=EQR+Inc ... ent&annual
If this deleveraging process begins to take its toll on rents (due to the opportunities afforded by homeowners with too much house and too little money to keep kids living at home, or take on renters), then let's assume for a second that rents drop 5%... I don't think this is unreasonable to presume could happen.
A 5% drop from $1,996 would bring it down about $100, wiping out 37% of your distributable income, all other things being equal. It appears they're leveraged at an interest rate of about 4.8% into about 2/3's of the book value of their building. If their net income drops 37%, that value of the building (if that's even the FMV) could drop into a zone where securing cheaper financing isn't possible. The self fulfilling nature of deleveraging crisis could even hit the value of highly leveraged apartment complexes.
Regardless of any self-fulfilling crises that could hit this fund (I really don't see that happening), you're still investing in something where 13.5% of rents collected are all you're walking away with in earnings, and that leaves it extremely exposed to lowering rental rates.
Generally the largest expense of a bricks and mortar REIT (not a mortgage REIT) is depreciation. Although depreciation is an expense subtracted to arrive at income, it is not a cash outflow (you don't write out a check to Mr. depreciation). Some of your calculations don't make a lot of sense when evaluating a REIT (as oppsed to a rental property owned by an individual). When evaluating REIT's, FFO (funds from operations) is the GAPP (generally accepted accounting principle) measurement used. FFO is mainly net income with depreciation added back. Cash flow and the ability to pay dividends is much more important than net income for a bricks and mortar REIT. Furthermore, unlike a rental propery of an individual, It would be unusual for a REIT owned apartment building to be under water. For one thing many large apartment REIT's build their own apartments, often on land purchased many years earlier at relatively low cost. Depreciation (MACRS) on residential rental rental property is taken straight line over a 27 and 1/2 year period. So if a property were say 9 years old, it would have a book value of only about 2/3 of cost (which is low to begin with). Also, until relatively recently real estate has gone up quite a lot in value. All in all it is quite unliklely that fair market value of REIT owned apartments would be less than book value. I would recommend AVB (Avalon Bay) as another large apartment REIT to consider. For anybody interested in learning more about REITs, I would recommend reading Ralph Block's fine book "Investing in REIT's":
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... &x=14&y=21
Also there is a terrific discussion board at The Motley Fool. It is very civil and has many very knowledgable posters there. Ralph Block himself posts there generally every Sunday evening under the handle "REITNUT":
http://boards.fool.com/real-estate-inv- ... d=29775382
Norm
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:46 pm
by ngcpa
According to a recent post on The Motley Fool REIT Board, 2011 Median Total Return for apartment REIT's was 18.89%. The post has 2011 total return by sectors & for individual REIT's. It is too large to copy here, but I will provide a link. It is a worthwhile read:
http://boards.fool.com/2011-reit-year-i ... 53752.aspx
Norm
Re: Apartment Rental REITs
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:09 pm
by TripleB
Interesting, thanks for the link to the Fool. Perhaps I had the right idea, but I am 1 year too late. I didn't know the numbers before posting the thread, just simply forecasting how I feel the market will be going forward.