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Long-term yields keep rising as Trump amps up fight for Fed control
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 10:34 am
by ochotona
Re: Long-term yields keep rising as Trump amps up fight for Fed control
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 10:50 pm
by boglerdude
Re: Long-term yields keep rising as Trump amps up fight for Fed control
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2025 7:28 am
by yankees60
Completely scary.
Is this like Rome where Nero fiddled? Our politicians have been doing the same for decades on end?
Re: Long-term yields keep rising as Trump amps up fight for Fed control
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 6:11 am
by ochotona
I don't see any way out of it. They would have to let inflation run hot and keep interest rates low across the yield curve, not just the short end, by the Fed buying more and more and more and more and more longer term Treasury bonds, so that they could default by inflation... pay the bondholder at face value in 10, 20, 30 years but with money of greatly diminished purchasing power.
Loss of purchasing power will make everyone more miserable and poorer, trade barriers in the form of tariffs make both trading partners poorer. Can't wait to see those North American coffee crop and banana crop and wintertime fresh fruit production capabilities emerge. I'm sure that demand will make the supply magically appear.
Artificially low long rates will beggar the saver as we did all the way from GFC until only a few years ago, and will add fuel to Stupidity Bubbles and zombie companies that would die off and help reset the deck were it not for low interest financing.
When we have a true exploding crisis, they're going going to raise tax rates back anyway, when the other party is in power. Roth convert now, Take capital gains in a low tax regime.
Get your gold allocation set up, and hold it through cyclical bear markets. I think the crisis comes when Jamie Dimon suggested... around 2034. That's after the mandatory 23% Social Security haircut.
Re: Long-term yields keep rising as Trump amps up fight for Fed control
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:16 pm
by dualstow
What’s GFC? I’m sure it will be totally obvious once I see it, but right now I can’t think of it.
Re: Long-term yields keep rising as Trump amps up fight for Fed control
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 3:13 pm
by Xan
dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:16 pm
What’s GFC? I’m sure it will be totally obvious once I see it, but right now I can’t think of it.
Must be Great Financial Crisis.
Re: Long-term yields keep rising as Trump amps up fight for Fed control
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 3:44 pm
by dualstow
Ah, thank you Xan