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Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
by joypog
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am
by yankees60
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I have yet to encounter this. What are examples of this?
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:18 pm
by ArthurPooh
yankees60 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I have yet to encounter this. What are examples of this?
From Perth Mint's website:
Acknowledgement of Country: We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which our business operates and lands throughout Australia. We pay our respects to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures, and to Elders past, present and emerging.
Even in Australia. I thought the Koala Brothers wouldn't stand for this s**t. At least the Voice was rejected in a recent referendum.
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:40 am
by dualstow
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I’m reading ‘The Identity Trap’ book which details how various concepts made their way from fringe to academia to institutions and corporations. These include the stolen land declarations which you mentioned; rejection of universality and MLK’s idea of equality; a pro-segregation push which, in the end, is similar to what the old-school racists wanted; the twisting of intersectionalism and critical race theory into the strangeness that they are today.
It’s all very interesting if disturbing.
Bill Maher said:
https://youtube.com/shorts/A0riUtvuXLw? ... Dym9_tY5kg
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:13 am
by yankees60
dualstow wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:40 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I’m reading ‘The Identity Trap’ book which details how various concepts made their way from fringe to academia to institutions and corporations. These include the stolen land declarations which you mentioned; rejection of universality and MLK’s idea of equality; a pro-segregation push which, in the end, is similar to what the old-school racists wanted; the twisting of intersectionalism and critical race theory into the strangeness that they are today.
It’s all very interesting if disturbing.
Bill Maher said:
https://youtube.com/shorts/A0riUtvuXLw? ... Dym9_tY5kg
Almost totally unrelated but related.
Just one small example.
At all levels of basketball - high school / college / NBA - if your team is way ahead at the end of the game so that the outcome is no longer in doubt .... you don't try to score any more points. Supposed to be about sportsmanship. Paradoxically, somehow in all the prior minutes it was okay to get the score to where it is.
In the old days ... in all these same levels of basketball - once you reached that point in the game all the players in the game would be the guys who almost never played in games when the outcome was still in doubt. Therefore, they'd all be playing with a furious pace and it was entertaining to see these players who you rarely saw play and playing at such a pace.
Instead, now those same players are in the game but they are not allowed to do anything in the last minute (if they are on the winning team).
I could name other examples in basketball, other sports ... but something like this had to have started somewhere and now it is everywhere.
Who starts these things, how do they spread, how long do they take to get universally adopted?
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:48 am
by DogBreath
yankees60 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I have yet to encounter this. What are examples of this?
There are no examples of this. It doesn't exist, just like DEI doesn't exist.
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:52 am
by DogBreath
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
See, the problem is that literally every grain of dirt was once inhabited by someone else (who wasn't a white male oppressor*) and conquered in some war, therefore, you are a POS and give that land back please.
The irony is that whomever your predecessors "stole" it from had "stole" it from someone else previously.
*Just bc you're Asian, don't think you aren't an oppressor. Asians count as white in the marginalization hierarchy.
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:09 pm
by Mountaineer
DogBreath wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:52 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
See, the problem is that literally every grain of dirt was once inhabited by someone else (who wasn't a white male oppressor*) and conquered in some war, therefore, you are a POS and give that land back please.
The irony is that whomever your predecessors "stole" it from had "stole" it from someone else previously.
*Just bc you're Asian, don't think you aren't an oppressor. Asians count as white in the marginalization hierarchy.
Careful, you will be on the list to be “reeducated”.
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:46 am
by yankees60
DogBreath wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:48 am
yankees60 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I have yet to encounter this. What are examples of this?
There are no examples of this. It doesn't exist, just like DEI doesn't exist.
I will plead 100% guilty to not sharing the current day paranoid mentality which is a child of the paranoid mentality of there being a Communist under every bed.
https://alphahistory.com/coldwar/reds-under-the-bed/
‘REDS UNDER THE BED’
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:38 pm
by DogBreath
yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:46 am
DogBreath wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:48 am
yankees60 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I have yet to encounter this. What are examples of this?
There are no examples of this. It doesn't exist, just like DEI doesn't exist.
I will plead 100% guilty to not sharing the current day paranoid mentality which is a child of the paranoid mentality of there being a Communist under every bed.
https://alphahistory.com/coldwar/reds-under-the-bed/
‘REDS UNDER THE BED’
How is "not sharing the current day paranoid mentality" related to actual things literally going on every day in the US that you choose to pretend don't exist?
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:18 pm
by yankees60
DogBreath wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:38 pm
yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:46 am
DogBreath wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:48 am
yankees60 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I have yet to encounter this. What are examples of this?
There are no examples of this. It doesn't exist, just like DEI doesn't exist.
I will plead 100% guilty to not sharing the current day paranoid mentality which is a child of the paranoid mentality of there being a Communist under every bed.
https://alphahistory.com/coldwar/reds-under-the-bed/
‘REDS UNDER THE BED’
How is "not sharing the current day paranoid mentality" related to actual things literally going on every day in the US that you choose to pretend don't exist?
It's the same as those who thought Communism was so prevalent and embedded in our country that they perceived that there was a Communist under every bed.
I'm not pretending anything does not exist. I'm not believing that some things are as prevalent as you believe them to be.
There is murder going on every day in this country. Many murders. Does that make murder a prevalent occurrence where I live / in my life?
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:31 pm
by I Shrugged
ArthurPooh wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:18 pm
yankees60 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I have yet to encounter this. What are examples of this?
From Perth Mint's website:
Acknowledgement of Country: We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which our business operates and lands throughout Australia. We pay our respects to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures, and to Elders past, present and emerging.
Even in Australia. I thought the Koala Brothers wouldn't stand for this s**t. At least the Voice was rejected in a recent referendum.
Made me think of this:
https://youtu.be/ejorQVy3m8E?si=NWs-ZM7bzQm1Q8LE
Midnight Oil: Beds Are Burning
Can we embed YouTube videos?
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:54 pm
by ArthurPooh
I Shrugged wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:31 pm
ArthurPooh wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:18 pm
yankees60 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I have yet to encounter this. What are examples of this?
From Perth Mint's website:
Acknowledgement of Country: We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which our business operates and lands throughout Australia. We pay our respects to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures, and to Elders past, present and emerging.
Even in Australia. I thought the Koala Brothers wouldn't stand for this s**t. At least the Voice was rejected in a recent referendum.
Made me think of this:
https://youtu.be/ejorQVy3m8E?si=NWs-ZM7bzQm1Q8LE
Midnight Oil: Beds Are Burning
Can we embed YouTube videos?
I can't believe I was vaguely aware of this song (as in I recognize the tune) yet I've never associated it with Australia or any political themes. "Give it back" is a quite creepy line. And it seems somewhat grotesque to me that such a song is sung by a guy who looks like elderly Reinhard Heydrich.
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:07 pm
by Hal
ArthurPooh wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:54 pm
I can't believe I was vaguely aware of this song (as in I recognize the tune) yet I've never associated it with Australia or any
political themes. "Give it back" is a quite creepy line. And it seems somewhat grotesque to me that such a song is sung by a guy who looks like elderly Reinhard Heydrich.
Oh, I remember him. Political was his middle name
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Garrett.
Those "Occupied Land" signs are quite common. Even the shopping centre I go to, has them at the entrance. Nobody pays any notice to them though..... My suspicion is that it's to placate a hard left state government here. Don't want to stand out and get hit with another tax or inquiry.
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:44 pm
by ArthurPooh
Hal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:07 pm
ArthurPooh wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:54 pm
I can't believe I was vaguely aware of this song (as in I recognize the tune) yet I've never associated it with Australia or any
political themes. "Give it back" is a quite creepy line. And it seems somewhat grotesque to me that such a song is sung by a guy who looks like elderly Reinhard Heydrich.
Oh, I remember him. Political was his middle name
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Garrett.
Those "Occupied Land" signs are quite common. Even the shopping centre I go to, has them at the entrance. Nobody pays any notice to them though..... My suspicion is that it's to placate a hard left state government here. Don't want to stand out and get hit with another tax or inquiry.
It has that
Havel's greengrocer feel to it, doesn't it?
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:59 pm
by yankees60
ArthurPooh wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:54 pm
I Shrugged wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:31 pm
ArthurPooh wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:18 pm
yankees60 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am
joypog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:30 am
When did acknowledging that your institution is on “Located on Occupied and Unceeded
XYZ Ancestral Homelands” become a thing?
Is it anything other than empty virtue signaling?
I have yet to encounter this. What are examples of this?
From Perth Mint's website:
Acknowledgement of Country: We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the land on which our business operates and lands throughout Australia. We pay our respects to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures, and to Elders past, present and emerging.
Even in Australia. I thought the Koala Brothers wouldn't stand for this s**t. At least the Voice was rejected in a recent referendum.
I well remember the song from hearing it many times in the early 80s. But as usual the lyrics went right be me as I primarily am focusing on the music with little regard for the lyrics.
Made me think of this:
https://youtu.be/ejorQVy3m8E?si=NWs-ZM7bzQm1Q8LE
Midnight Oil: Beds Are Burning
Can we embed YouTube videos?
I can't believe I was vaguely aware of this song (as in I recognize the tune) yet I've never associated it with Australia or any political themes. "Give it back" is a quite creepy line. And it seems somewhat grotesque to me that such a song is sung by a guy who looks like elderly Reinhard Heydrich.
Re: Occupied Land acknowledgements
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:16 am
by ArthurPooh
Hal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:07 pm
ArthurPooh wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:54 pm
I can't believe I was vaguely aware of this song (as in I recognize the tune) yet I've never associated it with Australia or any
political themes. "Give it back" is a quite creepy line. And it seems somewhat grotesque to me that such a song is sung by a guy who looks like elderly Reinhard Heydrich.
Oh, I remember him. Political was his middle name
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Garrett.
I know I'm beating this to death, and it's probably not nice of me to pick on someone's appearance like that, but I just cannot get over just how much does he look like a cartoonish stereotype of an evil colonizer in this music video. Especially in that goddamn hat. Had I watched the takes in an Aboriginal settlement without sound, I would assume he's ordering an execution of 100 randomly chosen natives as collective punishment for sheep-rustling.
