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Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2023 10:36 pm
by yankees60
I did a search in the forum and it does not look like there has been any discussion about this Portfolio Einstein web site.

It has quite detailed information on many different portfolios, including The Permanent Portfolio which is here:

https://www.portfolioeinstein.com/harry ... portfolio/

If you buy the $49 ebook it unlocks information on all the portfolios.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 12:29 pm
by dualstow
Thanks

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 1:40 pm
by yankees60
dualstow wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 12:29 pmThanks


Did you see that it also mentions Tex and Craig's book?

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 1:54 pm
by Xan
Was it written by AI?

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 2:35 pm
by snedgar
Smells like it.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 3:19 pm
by yankees60
Xan wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 1:54 pm
Was it written by AI?


I'd rate it extremely unlikely.

You can go there and judge for yourself but I don't think AI is capable of creating a list of 50+ investing books to read broken down into four categories.

All in all a highly impressive web site, packed with useful information.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 4:26 pm
by Xan
yankees60 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 3:19 pm
Xan wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 1:54 pm Was it written by AI?
I'd rate it extremely unlikely.

You can go there and judge for yourself but I don't think AI is capable of creating a list of 50+ investing books to read broken down into four categories.

All in all a highly impressive web site, packed with useful information.

Sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would be auto-generated.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 4:40 pm
by Tortoise
Xan wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 4:26 pm
yankees60 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 3:19 pm
Xan wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 1:54 pm Was it written by AI?
I'd rate it extremely unlikely.

You can go there and judge for yourself but I don't think AI is capable of creating a list of 50+ investing books to read broken down into four categories.

All in all a highly impressive web site, packed with useful information.

Sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would be auto-generated.
Yeah. The short intro prose before the list may have been written by a human, but the lists themselves could easily have been auto-generated.

One thing that gives the site an auto-generated vibe is the fact that it lacks an "About Me"/"About Us" page to explain who created the site, what their background is, and why they think they're qualified to present the information and offer the paid product.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 5:42 pm
by Kevin K.
I find the site thoroughly unimpressive. It does indeed read like it was written by a bot. The information provided is minimal and incomplete (who really cares about performance since an arbitrary start year of 1989 - assuming you believe the numbers posted - which I don't). Totally anonymous yet they're happy to take your money. Sheesh.

Not even remotely worth one's time IMHO given that Portfolio Charts and Portfolio Visualizer are both available for free.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 6:51 pm
by Mark Leavy
yankees60 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 3:19 pm You can go there and judge for yourself but I don't think AI is capable of creating a list of 50+ investing books to read broken down into four categories.
Ha! Xan and Tortoise are correct.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 7:44 pm
by boglerdude
Well, Vinny is AI, so whos fooling who

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 8:42 pm
by dualstow
yankees60 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 3:19 pm
Xan wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 1:54 pm Was it written by AI?
I'd rate it extremely unlikely.

You can go there and judge for yourself but I don't think AI is capable of creating a list of 50+ investing books to read broken down into four categories.

All in all a highly impressive web site, packed with useful information.
That’s kind of A.I.’s specialty O0
At the same time, it doesn’t make the site un-useful, let alone useless.
May as well get used to A.I.-created content. It’s going to be everywhere.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 9:58 pm
by yankees60
Tortoise wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 4:40 pm
Xan wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 4:26 pm
yankees60 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 3:19 pm
Xan wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 1:54 pm
Was it written by AI?


I'd rate it extremely unlikely.

You can go there and judge for yourself but I don't think AI is capable of creating a list of 50+ investing books to read broken down into four categories.

All in all a highly impressive web site, packed with useful information.



Sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would be auto-generated.


Yeah. The short intro prose before the list may have been written by a human, but the lists themselves could easily have been auto-generated.

One thing that gives the site an auto-generated vibe is the fact that it lacks an "About Me"/"About Us" page to explain who created the site, what their background is, and why they think they're qualified to present the information and offer the paid product.


You find this from the recommended books on investing to read like it was AI created? All reads to me as if it were written by a unique human being.

https://www.portfolioeinstein.com/best- ... ome-brain/

'The four groups
The best-investing books are divided into the following four groups:

Best investing books that you should read right now! These are the books that I highly recommend. Books that are written by authorities on investing, and that will help you invest both theoretically and practically.

Best investing books that will help you invest better. These are the books that explain what investing is, maybe cover asset allocation, and steers you awayfrom all the F.U.D. out there.

Best investing books that give you intelligent insight into investing. They may also provide well thought out evergreen general investing advice.

Best investing books that seem like they would help you but don’t, but that you are glad you read nonetheless. When you look up “best books on investing,” this category is by far the largest. These are theoretical books. These are books that tout one strategy over another (often outdated or outcompeted). These are also the books without any plan at all in them. They can also be vanity projects disguised as an actual book.

Ok, let’s get on with it.

(The lists are mostly sorted mostly alphabetically)"

"What are you reading?
That’s a lot of books, right?

If you’re just starting, don’t let that scare you. Just pick up Alan Roth’s book or one of John C. Bogle’s and go from there. You won’t be disappointed, and your wallet will thank you!"

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:34 pm
by Tortoise
dualstow wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:42 pm May as well get used to A.I.-created content. It’s going to be everywhere.
I’m fine with AI-generated content as long as proper attribution is given. For example, “Powered by GPT-4” or “Some of the content on this site was generated using GPT-4” at the bottom of the web page.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Mon May 08, 2023 11:41 pm
by Tortoise
yankees60 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 9:58 pm You find this from the recommended books on investing to read like it was AI created? All reads to me as if it were written by a unique human being.
As I already stated in my previous comment, “The short intro prose before the list may have been written by a human, but the lists themselves could easily have been auto-generated.”

I say “may” since one thing a human can do is use GPT to generate an initial draft of some prose, then manually make some minor edits to it to make it sound more natural and human. Maybe add a tiny bit of humor and quirkiness, slang, etc.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 7:35 am
by yankees60
Tortoise wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 11:41 pm
yankees60 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 9:58 pm
You find this from the recommended books on investing to read like it was AI created? All reads to me as if it were written by a unique human being.


As I already stated in my previous comment, “The short intro prose before the list may have been written by a human, but the lists themselves could easily have been auto-generated.”

I say “may” since one thing a human can do is use GPT to generate an initial draft of some prose, then manually make some minor edits to it to make it sound more natural and human. Maybe add a tiny bit of humor and quirkiness, slang, etc.


Or, the other "may" could be that the entire web site may have been entirely created by a human with zero generation by anything non-human.

Re: Portfolio Eintstein?

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 8:35 am
by dualstow
Tortoise wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 11:34 pm
dualstow wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:42 pm May as well get used to A.I.-created content. It’s going to be everywhere.
I’m fine with AI-generated content as long as proper attribution is given. For example, “Powered by GPT-4” or “Some of the content on this site was generated using GPT-4” at the bottom of the web page.
Agree, although I kind of like this inchoate phase in which many of us can spot the difference without being told. Can A.I.’s do that?